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You keep posting this singular paper as if it is "proof" of something. In fact, you comically used it to assert that it "debunked" the expansion of sea ice in the Arctic when the paper makes no such claim. Which is why words such as "likely" and "indicating" and "suggest" are used. Which is also why this article (referencing that paper) from NSIDC points out "The reasons behind this increase are complex, and several recent studies show that scientists are still trying to understand them."

The fact that you think it is a response to the IPCC's assertion that "several studies are contradictory. In conclusion there is low confidence in the scientific understanding of the observed increase in Antarctic sea ice extent since 1979" is quite funny.

You are either just a troll posting the stupid shit out of boredom, or you're actually that dumb.

The most hilarious thing is you using the IPCC but then anything the IPCC says about global warming being man made you completely ignore and make up all sorts of logical fallacies about their findings. Talk about confirmation bias, lol.

There is plenty of evidence to why the sea ice is expanding. They haven't developed any models to replicate it which is why the IPCC says it is complex. But there is absolutely nothing about the sea ice expanding in Antarctica that changes the fact the ocean is warming rapidly, the ice sheets are melting at a much higher rate, and sea levels are rising at a much higher rate.

So just because they haven't been able to model the ice increase, doesn't mean they don't understand the possible causes for it.

But it's nice to see you finally using real scientific sources. Lol.
 

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The most hilarious thing is you using the IPCC but then anything the IPCC says about global warming being man made you completely ignore and make up all sorts of logical fallacies about their findings. Talk about confirmation bias, lol.

Except I've never done any such thing.

LOL

you're a laughable dumb fuck and a liar.
 

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There is plenty of evidence to why the sea ice is expanding. They haven't developed any models to replicate it which is why the IPCC says it is complex.

Except the IPCC said that there is "low confidence in the scientific understanding" Which is much different than saying it is "complex"
Mind you, you said that it is completely explained, understood, and Artic sea ice expansion was "debunked"
What a laughable idiot you are.
 

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Except I've never done any such thing.

LOL

you're a laughable dumb fuck and a liar.

Lol, so a retard global warming denier like yourself now supports the IPCC? You have no clue what you even believe, you just like to argue.
 

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Except the IPCC said that there is "low confidence in the scientific understanding" Which is much different than saying it is "complex"
Mind you, you said that it is completely explained, understood, and Artic sea ice expansion was "debunked"
What a laughable idiot you are.

First off, you still haven't figured out how to understand context yet. I said it has been debunked in terms of a theory that global warming isn't real. The IPCC 100% believes global warming is man made and a serious problem. They are simply stating they have low confidence in the theories of sea ice expansion so far because they can't replicate it in their models. But there are accepted positions as to why the sea ice is expanding and there have been detailed research in to the subject.

You just provide pure comedic value. I appreciate your effort.
 

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Haha, now that's some funny shit. HE.....likes to argue.

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[h=1]Dr. Roy Spencer: Science Knows 'Almost Nothing' About Global Warming[/h]
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[h=2]At the Heartland Institute's 9th International Conference on Climate Change in Las Vegas, Nevada, this week, Dr. Roy Spencer wowed participants with his presentation titled "What Do We Really Know About Global Warming?" wherein he noted that claims of global warming have been greatly exaggerated.[/h]In 2012, The Economist called the Heartland Institute "the world's most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change," and this conference certainly lived up to that reputation. You can see many of the speeches at the conference website and at Heartland's Youtube channel.
As to Dr. Spencer, buttressed by a series of graphs projected on the screen behind him, the Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville began his July 9 address by warning attendees that the "science" of global warming really isn't much by way of science and that bias is everywhere in the field.

"Too many people think that all areas of science are created equal," Spencer said, "and that scientists objectively look for the answers, but no, there's two kinds of scientists, male and female. Other than that they're the same as everybody else, and in many instances [in the climate sciences] more biased than your average person."
Spencer went on to criticize the temperature data of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) because it has never taken into account the phenomenon of urban heat island effect.
"A lot of us still think that a lot of the warming we are seeing in the thermometer record is just urban heat island effect. In fact Las Vegas, here, even though it's built in the desert basically... in the last forty years or so, nighttime temperatures here have risen by ten degrees Fahrenheit because of urbanization."
"This is an effect that they can't take out of the thermometer record," Spencer continued. "Their algorithms can't take it out because you can't separate it from global warming. If you've got a long-term warming trend because of urbanization there's no way NOAA can take out that effect because it's indistinguishable [from other temperature readings]."
Spencer then insisted that the longer the temperature record and other climate facts are looked into the less we know about the possible future effects of climate.
"After working on global warming for the last 20 plus years, what do we know about it now?" he rhetorically asked his audience. "The longer you go [into the research] you get more questions than you get answers. So, what do we really know about it? Almost nothing."
Spencer continued, saying that science really doesn't know certifiably "how strong global warming is, what it's caused by, whether it makes severe weather worse, when it started, when it will end, or whether it's good or bad."
He said that we do think global warming might be caused by some combination of human activity and Mother Nature.
"I have to admit," Spencer said, "adding Co2 to the atmosphere should cause some warming, but I think it's an entirely open question... how much warming we're going to get from adding Co2 to the atmosphere." And this factor "makes all the difference between Al Gore's Armageddon and 'who cares it's probably a beneficial thing.'"
Spencer then went on to illustrate how easy it is to make assumptions based on "data" by showing a graph on the screen that showed how the rise in UFO sightings coincided with the rise in ocean temperatures and joked that maybe aliens are causing global warming.
It was a joke that Heartland chief Joe Bast later thanked Spencer for because those that want to ridicule the conference will now say that climate deniers blame global warming on aliens from outer space.
The UFO joke graph was the first of a series of more serious graphs that Spencer presented to show that much of the alarmist rhetoric over global warming is not supported by facts.
For instance, after the humorous graph, Spencer showed one that revealed that nearly every century since Roman times has experienced either global warming or global cooling proving that the "norm" is wild change and not some grand mean leveling. The graph also shows that the Roman and Medieval warm periods were just as warm as today's temps.
His next graph was one that compared the actual global temperatures to those predicted by various scientific computer models. The graph shows that the real temperatures were much, much lower than all the computer models predicted they'd be.
Another graph detailed the temperatures in America's corn belt since the year 1900. This one showed that climate models came nowhere close to the real temperatures and that more recent models were far and away hotter than the real temperature ever was.
Spencer also noted that tornado and cyclone activity is lower than it has been in decades previously. Nor does snowfall show any major patterns that can predict disaster.
But it was his crop yields graph that was most interesting.
"Global warming is going to destroy agricultural productivity, right?" Spencer began when he flashed his crop yield graph on the screen. "This is what we keep hearing."
"These are plots since 1960 of the increase in crop yields... that's per acre productivity, not planting more acreage," Spencer said, "and there has been a steady increase in productivity by a factor of, since 1960, a 3 to 5 increase in grain productivity. I mean, could Paul Ehrlich have been more wrong?"
Ehrlich, you may recall, made himself famous with his 1968 book The Population Bomb in which he predicted that the whole world would be starving by now. Almost nothing in his celebrated book has come to fruition, but on the food front, the world is better fed now than any time in human history. In fact, a recent study found that the world is getting too fat because there is too much food available!
"There's no sign of global warming hurting productivity yet," Spencer added. "But the IPCC – which seems to be immune from facts – continues to insist that global warming is hurting our crops… when there's really no observational evidence for it. They are more and more in the realm of theory which is increasingly divorced from observation from the real world."
Spencer also showed attendees a graph showing how the world has turned greener over the last century. This growth in greenery, Spencer said, is likely due to the fact that we are putting more Co2 into the atmosphere, the gas that is "necessary for life on earth."
"The idea that everything humans do hurts nature is a religious view; it isn't necessarily true," Spencer concluded from this slide.
Spencer also insisted that we can't rely on renewable energy for the massive amount of energy the peoples on this planet need. Renewables just can't supply that much power. "You can't stop using fossil fuels without killing people" and destroying our economies, he said.
With his concluding statements, Spencer went back to his point that nature loves mankind's output of Co2. He said that at least half of the Co2 we produce is immediately gobbled up by the earth's vegetation, and this holds no matter how much we produce.
"So, given all of this evidence, why aren't scientists advocating producing more carbon dioxide?" he asked.
In answer to his own question and in summation, Spencer said that "the reason why more scientists don't advocate putting more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is because the driving force behind the global warming debate, I hate to say it, isn't science."
There are plenty more videos of those who addressed the Heartland Institute's 9th International Conference on Climate Change in Las Vegas, Nevada, on the conference website.
Follow Warner Todd Huston on Twitter @warnerthuston or email the author at igcolonel@hotmail.com.
 

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The Heartland Institute and Roy Spencer!!! Lmfao! Conservatives will believe anything they are told by their masters.
 

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You are in denial AK. Why? More and more facts coming out every day it seems that its just a big scam but you just dig in your heels and act like an ostrich and keep making it a conservative thing. It ain't a conservative or liberal issue but you desperately want it to be.
 

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You are in denial AK. Why? More and more facts coming out every day it seems that its just a big scam but you just dig in your heels and act like an ostrich and keep making it a conservative thing. It ain't a conservative or liberal issue but you desperately want it to be.

Lmao! There are no facts that it is a scam. It's basic science that is agreed upon by almost all academic communities throughout the world. It's not even a debate anymore and the past decade there is even more agreement across the board on global warming. You are just making shit up like always. It's very embarrassing.
 
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You are in denial AK. Why? More and more facts coming out every day it seems that its just a big scam but you just dig in your heels and act like an ostrich and keep making it a conservative thing. It ain't a conservative or liberal issue but you desperately want it to be.

The opposite is true honestly. You are not researching well
 

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The opposite is true honestly. You are not researching well
really Purple? A few years ago hardly anyone was questioning it. Now, you can find as much on the facts it all just bullshit as its man made. Anyone can see the pendulum has swung big time. Its hard to keep such a lie under wraps for too long nowadays with all the media outlets available to anyone who doesn't wish to simply buy what politicians and paid scientist are trying to shovel down people's throats.
 

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scottcarter, I think the 'motorcross' punk and his sidekick BP have more "peer reviewed" studies and "97%" .com internet surveys to totally prove they're right.

I'm completely convinced!
 

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really Purple? A few years ago hardly anyone was questioning it. Now, you can find as much on the facts it all just bullshit as its man made. Anyone can see the pendulum has swung big time. Its hard to keep such a lie under wraps for too long nowadays with all the media outlets available to anyone who doesn't wish to simply buy what politicians and paid scientist are trying to shovel down people's throats.

You're making shit up. There is far more people who agree with global warming now than couple years ago, including the general public. The retard bar that you and Joe belong to is dwindling.
 

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scottcarter, I think the 'motorcross' punk and BP have more "peer reviewed" studies and .com internet surveys to prove they're right.

I'm totally convinced!
Like I said Joe, if Obama suddenly changed his stance on man made global warming like he did on gay marriage, then these guys will no doubt change their opinion also. Towing the party line is more important than the truth.

Same goes for the missing IRS emails. Right now liberals could care less. Its basically a non story but it it happened under Bush it would be a shit storm of epic proportions.

Truth means very little if it doesn't suit your party. Us independents understand this and take what liberals say and claim to believe with a grain of salt.
 

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The opposite is true honestly. You are not researching well

He's convinced himself that the more confident he acts the more true his beliefs become. It's a defense mechanism. It's what dumb people do rather than relying on science and facts.
 

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He's convinced himself that the more confident he acts the more he believes his thoughts. It's a defense mechanism. It's what dumb people do rather than relying on science and facts.
nope. dumb people refuse to think for themselves because its easier just to follow. Not mentioning any names of course.
 

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