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Biz, I suggest you take a look at NoCoke's post and digest it before you bet. I'm not a Clemson hater, but I do now live in ACC land and I'm telling you, the Tigers are not Sooners. Go ahead and take your 4 points, there's a damn good reason Vegas is giving them points. GL this bowl season.
~T~
Biz, I suggest you take a look at NoCoke's post and digest it before you bet. I'm not a Clemson hater, but I do now live in ACC land and I'm telling you, the Tigers are not Sooners. Go ahead and take your 4 points, there's a damn good reason Vegas is giving them points. GL this bowl season.
~T~
Hey Biz, check this out while you're chewing on No Coke's stats:
http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/statistics/2015-2016/ats.html
Hell, my Dores covered better than Clemson, LOL.
~T~
http://www.covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/statistics/2015-2016/ats.html
Hell, my Dores covered better than Clemson, LOL.
~T~
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That is one stat out of many. I deal with a lot of systems and angles, and I would never make a play based on 1 stat. Cherry picking a TO stat isn't meaningful. Its like saying coaches that wipe their ass left handed instead of right handed win 70% of the time.
I've said this so many times I get a headache, does anybody on this forum understand how lines are made? Rankings have NOTHING to do with the line. Oklahoma has a slight edge in Power Rating, that's why they are favored. Oklahoma has been a media darling for several weeks, getting lots of pub in many places. That's another reason they got an extra point or 2 from the PR difference.
I've heard the "points for a reason" argument before. Unless someone can provide a history of how many times "points for a reason" games cover, its meaningless.
I don't need to live in South Carolina or Oklahoma to watch either team. I've seen both plenty. Oklahoma may win by 10, who knows.
I said no way UNC beats Clemson, and they got whipped. Florida/Ole Miss...everyone on this forum liked Miss (too many athletes) and I liked Florida as a 7 pt home dog that won outright. My point isn't that I'm a genius, its that I trust my judgment when breaking down a game.
They both allow around 20 points (I always give the edge to the dog when they both allow the same amount of points), Clemson a better net rushing edge, a 4 pt spread is too much when you consider the PR difference which is only a point. Those things signal to me that the dog is live.
You've mentioned the delta of the stats with regards to competition etc.....someone noted that Oklahoma has faced many backup QBs along the way. They lost to Texas. Texas. They were a 2 point conversion away from losing as a 17.5 fav to TCU and their backup QB, if converted we aren't even talking about them today. Baylor played with a freshman backup. Oklahoma St played the backup most of the game. Look at the rest of that schedule and tell me what makes them so superior to Clemson. They beat a mediocre T Tech team, caught K St after they lost 2 tough ballgames.
Its back to 3.5, I grabbed the 4 already. Looking forward to the game. Have a great Bowl Season T.
That is one stat out of many. I deal with a lot of systems and angles, and I would never make a play based on 1 stat. Cherry picking a TO stat isn't meaningful. Its like saying coaches that wipe their ass left handed instead of right handed win 70% of the time.
I've said this so many times I get a headache, does anybody on this forum understand how lines are made? Rankings have NOTHING to do with the line. Oklahoma has a slight edge in Power Rating, that's why they are favored. Oklahoma has been a media darling for several weeks, getting lots of pub in many places. That's another reason they got an extra point or 2 from the PR difference.
I've heard the "points for a reason" argument before. Unless someone can provide a history of how many times "points for a reason" games cover, its meaningless.
I don't need to live in South Carolina or Oklahoma to watch either team. I've seen both plenty. Oklahoma may win by 10, who knows.
I said no way UNC beats Clemson, and they got whipped. Florida/Ole Miss...everyone on this forum liked Miss (too many athletes) and I liked Florida as a 7 pt home dog that won outright. My point isn't that I'm a genius, its that I trust my judgment when breaking down a game.
They both allow around 20 points (I always give the edge to the dog when they both allow the same amount of points), Clemson a better net rushing edge, a 4 pt spread is too much when you consider the PR difference which is only a point. Those things signal to me that the dog is live.
You've mentioned the delta of the stats with regards to competition etc.....someone noted that Oklahoma has faced many backup QBs along the way. They lost to Texas. Texas. They were a 2 point conversion away from losing as a 17.5 fav to TCU and their backup QB, if converted we aren't even talking about them today. Baylor played with a freshman backup. Oklahoma St played the backup most of the game. Look at the rest of that schedule and tell me what makes them so superior to Clemson. They beat a mediocre T Tech team, caught K St after they lost 2 tough ballgames.
Its back to 3.5, I grabbed the 4 already. Looking forward to the game. Have a great Bowl Season T.
Please tell me you're joking. That's got to be the first stat I look at capping a game, how the two opponents are doing against the line. I don't bet games the day before, some stupid shit can happen, e.g. player beats up his girlfriend, player gets caught smoking weed, player gets pulled over for DUI, etc., etc. I could be wrong, hell, I was wrong last year on the A&M / South Carolina game. But I've got every sports channel available and have watched both teams more than half a dozen times, and the Sooners are the better team imo. GL with your bowl action!
~T~
