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CFB betting: Value on the College Football Playoff and Heisman Trophy

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In college football, it's almost unheard of to lose convincingly but have your College Football Playoff chances improve. It's even more improbable that not only has no one seemed to notice, but the odds have lengthened far more than they should have.

College Football Playoff odds​

TEAMODDS
Georgia+110
Ohio State+180
Michigan+800
Tennessee+1800
Oregon+2500
TCU+3000
Alabama+4000
Clemson+4000
LSU+4000
USC+4000
Alabama and Clemson had a clear road to the CFP going into last Saturday's games, but respective losses to LSU and Notre Dame detoured them both. Meanwhile, TCU remained undefeated and landed a top-four position in this week's CFP rankings. However, the Horned Frogs were also 7-point underdogs at Texas on Saturday, suggesting that although they won, they'd be underdogs in a Big 12 championship game rematch. One loss would certainly knock out TCU and the conference as a whole.

Tennessee +1800​

Ardent readers will have noted that we have yet to make a bet for college football's national champion. That changes now.


What did we really learn about Tennessee after its two-touchdown loss at Georgia? If your answer is, "That the Volunteers aren't as good as Georgia," that's not something we learned. Given that they were almost 10-point underdogs, we knew that going in. We even knew that when Tennessee was priced equally to the Bulldogs and Ohio State to win the title last week.

What changed was that Clemson and Alabama knocked themselves out in upset losses. Tennessee's loss only confirms that it's, at best, the second-best team in the country. The top four make the CFP, so it makes sense that the Vols can be found at a favored price of -220 to do so. The loss also keeps them out of the SEC championship game, which actually helps them because it keeps them out of a losable game.

Instead, Tennessee will play three more games as a multiple-touchdown favorite. Given the likelihood that it finishes with a lone blemish being a road loss to the best team in the country, it will be hard to imagine that we'll see the Volunteers outside of the top four come Dec. 4. Especially after Michigan and Ohio State have played, TCU will have finished its tough schedule, and the Pac-12 has cannibalized itself. Speaking of the Pac-12, its best candidate is a team that lost to, wait for it ... Georgia! By 46 points! On a neutral field!

OK, so let's say the Volunteers are in the CFP, the case against them is that they'd likely have a path of Ohio State and Georgia to win. Beyond it being an assumption that the Buckeyes get there, how do we know Tennessee isn't better than them? More importantly, if the Vols got a rematch against Georgia on a neutral field in Los Angeles, their offense may work considerably better without the same din of Bulldogs fans at home.

The Volunteers were +9.5 on the road at Georgia, but even the loss shouldn't downgrade them to a point where the same spread should exist on a neutral field. A moneyline of +300 sounds fair. Add a projected moneyline of +225 in a hypothetical semifinal game with Ohio State, and a rolling two-game parlay would equate to odds of +1200.

Why are we getting 18-1, then? Because the Volunteers just lost, and the perception is that they couldn't find revenge in a wildly different spot with ample time to prepare and adjust.

Heisman Trophy odds​

PLAYERODDS
CJ Stroud+170
Hendon Hooker+275
Caleb Williams+750
Blake Corum+800
Bo Nix+800
Drake Maye+1300
Stetson Bennett+1500
Jayden Daniels+1800
A ton also happened in the campaign for the Heisman Trophy. Stroud's stats-centric resume took another hit, as did the case for Hooker. While they're still the favorites, and thankfully we have a ticket on Hooker from before the season, it also opens up the possibility for someone else.

PLAYERPASSING YARDSTOTAL TD-INT
Caleb Williams274232-1
CJ Stroud245329-4
Hendon Hooker253325-2
What exactly did Williams do to fall off the Heisman radar after being near the top of the oddsboard before the season? USC has lost one game on a last-second two-point conversion at a good Utah team. Williams had 438 total yards and five touchdowns with no interceptions in that game.

The flip side of Tennessee having three easy games to finish the regular season is that Hooker's case is virtually closed before the vote happens in early December. Stroud has a showcase game with Michigan, and should the Buckeyes win, he'll have another spotlight in the Big Ten championship.

USC has a projected high-scoring game with UCLA that should be for a Pac-12 title game berth and will have the Los Angeles-level hype to go with it. Then the Trojans face Notre Dame, which just shut Clemson down. With a win over UCLA, USC gets a third prime-time showcase against another top team. Williams has the most opportunity to prove he's college football's most outstanding player and the stats to back it up.

Matt Russell is a betting writer for theScore. If there’s a bad beat to be had, Matt will find it. Find him on Twitter @mrussauthentic.

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If Stroud can falter, pull up lame or something , Bo Nix can swoop in and get me my preseason 200/1 wager
Yeah you aint rooting for him to get INJURED, maybe just a tweak or maybe he slips on a banana peel and they hold him out a couple games......:an_beatup
 

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If Stroud can falter, pull up lame or something , Bo Nix can swoop in and get me my preseason 200/1 wager
200 to 1 is a nice cash for sure...
 

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Whenever you can get the favorite at +money that's value.
There giving you Georgia at +110
That's a nice price for the best team in the nation/defending champs
 

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If Stroud can falter, pull up lame or something , Bo Nix can swoop in and get me my preseason 200/1 wager
Crazy good odds!

Nix 66-1 Hartman 66-1 Hooker 66-1 Levi 66-1 what I stumbled across.

Voters love big schools with title shot. If Ohio State can slip up lose to Michigan and Ducks run table out nix is alive for sure

CJ has him beat by few TD but yards basically the same. However on the ground CJ has done nothing 75yd O TD vs Nix 500 and 13 TD. Ducks need run table to vault NIX up in the eye of voters.

Great odds and bet Redeye!
 

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Whenever you can get the favorite at +money that's value.
There giving you Georgia at +110
That's a nice price for the best team in the nation/defending champs
Uga +110 definitely have an easy path now to be top seed
CJ +170 definitely insurance off UGA off possible scenario and even win Both

Drake Unc is crushing it. Williams has a overall pretty stat sheet but he looked bad in a few games. Especially vs Oregon st forget his stats he just looked lost playing QB.

Are Heisman votes in the week before title game?
 

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Crazy good odds!

Nix 66-1 Hartman 66-1 Hooker 66-1 Levi 66-1 what I stumbled across.

Voters love big schools with title shot. If Ohio State can slip up lose to Michigan and Ducks run table out nix is alive for sure

CJ has him beat by few TD but yards basically the same. However on the ground CJ has done nothing 75yd O TD vs Nix 500 and 13 TD. Ducks need run table to vault NIX up in the eye of voters.

Great odds and bet Redeye!
Thx. It was at the Westgate in August. 100/1 was the best anywhere else in town.
 

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REd is known to get some great value plays....what is the most recent BIG ONE you hit?
 

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Thx. It was at the Westgate in August. 100/1 was the best anywhere else in town.
Not doubting the odds! 66-1 for me in late August but those future things can be all over the place. Especially individual awards like a Heisman. Great value can be found shopping around. Great bet either way. Hopefully for you the ducks can climb into the top 4 and get his stock up more
 

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Not doubting the odds! 66-1 for me in late August but those future things can be all over the place. Especially individual awards like a Heisman. Great value can be found shopping around. Great bet either way. Hopefully for you the ducks can climb into the top 4 and get his stock up more
Yep. 200/1 on the Ducks also
 

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REd is known to get some great value plays....what is the most recent BIG ONE you hit?
Have to think about that one. Matsuyama 53/1 at the Masters was a couple of years ago.

Kansas 25/1 last year was really good value. First play I had made last season. Crazy that it was on the Oregon coast
 

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Have to think about that one. Matsuyama 53/1 at the Masters was a couple of years ago.
Speaking of masters

Xander 22-1
Will z 25-1
Cam Smith 14-1 (guy seems destined to win here eventually)

Xander dropping 18-1. Anything on masters yet? Some wild trends past 12 years masters. 20’s-1 odds winners sweet spot. First time major winners. Top 25 OWGR. Win on tour after January. Guys with 3+ starts there. And anyone who was top 10 year before. All have crazy strong correlation to winning. If you go off just a first time major winner and top 30 OWGR the past years it’s like 8 of 10 or something. Believe tiger and DJ only previous major winners to win since like 2010 or something close.
 

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So far I have
Matsuyama 45/1
Zalatoris 25/1 I like this one the best
Koepka 50/1
T Kim 100/1
Morikawa 30/1
Im 50/1
Fitzpatrick 35/1
 

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CJ rolling today
Say goodbye to that +170
Tomorrow this will be on the side of the number -
 

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