Caught on Tape: ObamaCare Architect Admits Deceiving Americans to Pass Law

[Acebb]

[h=1]Obamacare's Foundation of Lies[/h]
He called you stupid. He admitted that the White House lied to you. Its officials lied to all of us—Republicans, Democrats, and independents; rich and poor; white and brown; men and women.
Liberals should be the angriest. Not only were they personally deceived, but the administration's dishonest approach to health care reform has helped make Obamacare unpopular while undermining the public's faith in an activist government. A double blow to progressives.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/obamacare-s-foundation-of-lies-20141112

 

[SheriffJoe]

You gotta hear this to believe it:

This video is from 2012 where Gruber explains how John Kerry and the Democrats exploited the “lack of economic understand of voters” to tax their healthcare plans via taxing the “evil” insurance companies. It was either that or take away their subsidy. By taxing the “evil” insurance companies, they cause those insurance companies to pass down higher costs to the consumer basically achieving the same thing without the stupid voters realizing it:

NOTE: The video starts at 28:40 automatically

Oh so clever, fucking commies! :>(

 

[Acebb]

The R's are talking about putting this bozo under oath. They should.

[h=1]Hearings floated as Hill Republicans seize on Gruber Obamacare comments[/h]
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...publicans-seize-on-gruber-obamacare-comments/


Notice how all the people who pretended to care about lying from 2001-2008 are utterly silent about this.

I'm sure it is just a funny coincidence.

 

[JDeuce]

Genius!


Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro 5m5 minutes ago
Gruber: "And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more voters to insult."

 

[JDeuce]

Nazi Pelousy gets her ass caught in a ringer...

http://rare.us/story/remember-the-o...pid-nancy-pelosi-just-lied-about-knowing-him/

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who often extols the virtues of Obamacare, said Thursday that she has no idea who Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber is even though video exists of her stating his name and using his studies about the low costs of the law as a reference.


Sorry, Nazi. There's this thing called the Internet today that provides easy access to almost everything ever recorded, so it isn't as easy to flat out lie as it was back in the days of newspapers and rotary phones. So, what's the feeble cover-up attempt?


Pelosi’s office attempted to clear things up by saying “She said she doesn’t ‘know who he is,’ not that she’s ‘never heard of him,’” according to the Washington Post.


Oh, ok. That makes perfect sense.

:think2:

Can someone tell me what the hell the difference is between "not knowing who he is" and "never heard of him"? Not sure how you can have one without the other. Especially after this guy drafted her party's signature legislation, and you see her mention this fucking guy by name in the speech...which means it's a safe bet that she has at least some idea of who the hell he is?

Dimocraps are right about one thing, though...their voting block and supporters are the dumbest MF's on the planet. Either they can't understand why she's lying or they don't really care.

Where's Guesser? He always flips out when he thinks someone on here is lying. Or is that only acceptable if it's done by elitists on behalf of the common good?

 

[PatPatriot]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/pelosi-doesnt-know-who-gruber-is-says-he-didnt-help-write-our-bill/

Check out this link its both clips of Nazi Pelosi denying knowing Gruber while eyes blink and hands shake.
Ant the one where she refers to him.

 

[russ1945]

Just another Elitist Ivy Leaguer (MIT). I still cannot believe how much Harvard changed my niece, and it was not for the better. Lying is part of the liberal game plan. The ends justify the means.

 

[SheriffJoe]

'Never Heard Of Him'

Pelosi Said She Doesn't Know Who Gruber Is... Oops, She Used To Name Drop Him

Nancy Pelosi In 2009: Americans Should Read Jonathan Gruber’s ObamaCare Analysis

“I don’t know if you have seen Jonathan Gruber of MIT’s analysis of what the comparison is to the status quo versus what will happen in our bill for those who seek insurance within the exchange,” Pelosi told reporters in 2009. “And our bill takes down those costs, even some now, and much less preventing the upward spiral.”

Lying corrupt c-u-n-t :>(

 

[JDeuce]

Umm, gentlemen? This is big news. As in, a gamechanger.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...n-the-room-when-cadillac-tax-lie-was-created/

SMOKING GUN VIDEO: Jonathan Gruber Admitted Obama Was In the Room When Cadillac Tax Lie Was Created. UPDATE: WHITE HOUSE LOGS CONFIRM!


Now, the problem is, it’s a political nightmare, … and people say, “No, you can’t tax my benefits.” So what we did a lot in that room was talk about, well, how could we make this work? And Obama was like, “Well, you know” — I mean, he is really a realistic guy. He is like, “Look, I can’t just do this.” He said: “It is just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phases and other things?” And we talked about it. And he was just very interested in that topic.

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Just...wow.

There is no debate anymore. The Stuttering Clusterfuck and his party knowingly sold the public a giant bottle of snake oil. He was present when the lies were constructed. Can't use that handy "I just didn't know about any of this" defense anymore.

Not that anyone with half a brain didn't already know this. This just acts as hard core proof.

Boy, I wonder if the cheerleaders in the media will bother covering this...

 

[Acebb]

^ Wow, JDeuce. I am not surprised thought. Obama is a goofy liar and nobody in the media wants to make their little Tin god of a President look bad.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Taxpayers paid millions for the deceptions of the Obamacare architect




By THE WASHINGTON TIMES - - Thursday, November 13, 2014

The MIT economist who is the brains behind Obamacare has made quite a stir with his admission that President Obama’s health care takeover was built on lies. Mr. Gruber says he was willing to say and do whatever it took to advance the scheme, and now it’s clear why. Obamacare made Mr. Gruber a multimillionaire, and at the expense of the taxpayers.

Video of Mr. Gruber’s remarks, delivered at a University of Pennsylvania health care conference last year, has surfaced in which he explained how the details of Obamacare were kept under wraps until the measure was rammed through the Democratic Congress with no opportunity for anyone to read the legislation. “Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage,” Mr. Gruber said. “Call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever. But basically, that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass.”

Those “stupid” people have been extremely generous to Mr. Gruber. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) in 2010 investigated the $297,600 that the Department of Health and Human Services paid Mr. Gruber to sing the praises of the health care scheme. Congress — or part of Congress — was concerned that this payoff violated a federal law against paid government propaganda, but the GAOsaid it wasn’t a violation because Mr. Gruber had written his propaganda on his own time. Officially, he was paid only to “analyze various health care reform proposals and identify cost and coverage implications.”

This is an extraordinarily lucrative enterprise in the age of Obamacare that Mr. Gruber himself brought about. Individual states have lavished taxpayer cash on Mr. Gruber in return for cookie-cutter reports that describe the impact of Obamacare for each of the several states.

Minnesota, for example, used federal Obamacare grants to pay Mr. Gruber to attend one meeting, participate in a biweekly email list and print a copy of the report, all for $329,000.

Wisconsin paid Mr. Gruber $400,000 for the same material, requested by the office of then-Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat. When the report was presented, Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, didn’t want Mr. Gruber at the news conference. Vermont is paying him another $400,000. Such a deal!

West Virginia, Maine, Colorado and Oregon have partaken of Mr. Gruber’s services, too, guaranteeing him a tidy sum. The money bought lies and deception. That’s Mr. Gruber’s characterization, not ours. “If you had a law which made it explicit that healthy people are going to pay in and sick people get money,” said Mr. Gruber, “it would not have passed.”

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Truth prevailed, as it usually does. “This bill was written in a tortured way,” he said, “to make sure the [Congressional Budget Office] didn’t score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scores the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.” (Are you listening, Chief Justice Roberts?)

Democrats are scrambling now to push Mr. Gruber down the memory hole. The clicking you hear is his mug being Photoshopped out of photographs taken of him with Washington political notabilities. Josh Earnest, the president’s press secretary, dodges questions about Mr. Gruber, insisting the administration was entirely transparent throughout the entire consideration of Obamacare — the bill that Nancy Pelosi famously said had to be passed so everyone could see what was in it.

Given the amount of federal cash Mr. Gruber continues to pocket, Congress has a duty to order a full and complete audit of this work to make sure that no laws were broken and that the “stupid” taxpayers have received their money’s worth. While they’re at it, inquirers ought to consider whether Mr. Gruber’s dishonest politicking violates any ethical code at MIT. This flagrant Gruberism is another reason to repeal this abortion of a health care law.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/13/editorial-jonathan-grubers-payday/#ixzz3J4G3ovey
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[SheriffJoe]

"Educated people making intelligent, informed decisions" ointer:

 

[SheriffJoe]

 

[scottcarter]

:Carcajada:

 

[SheriffJoe]

After the political debacle known as HillaryCare 'progressives' regrouped and devised a "never again" strategy: LIE THEIR ASSES OFF!

They couldn't have picked a better professional conman to do it, a guy who's entire personal and political history is a lie.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

 

[SheriffJoe]

How come these damning videos weren't available for the 2012 elections and are just surfacing now? :think2:

 

[Dave007inVegas]

How come these damning videos weren't available for the 2012 elections and are just surfacing now? :think2:

 

[SheriffJoe]

 

[mountain]

I still find the Obama supporters avoidance of this thread a statement. Would one of you guys at least attempt to support this guy? Maybe you don't agree with him but at least say something.

You guys are the first to deride R's when they are silent on a topic to which you agree so I would really like to get your take on this thread.