Bush looks flustered

[blueedwards]

the bottom line is this:

about 25% of the people always vote conservative and about 25% always vote liberal. the other 50% will go back and forth depending on the candidate. 25% of the voters hate bush and would never vote for him no matter who ran against him. the other 50% who may not agree with everything bush did the last four years still need to feel that voting him out of office would result in a safer, more propsperous america. john kerry is just too liberal and is viewed as weak on terrorism. its just too scary to vote for him as president. you know he will raise taxes and you have no idea how he will deal with terrorism. most people, unless they are extremely liberal and/or hate bush, just can't pull the trigger on this guy.

that is why bush will win.

i will vote for bush. do i believe he is a great president? no. do i agree with every move he has made as president? no. but, the alternative is much worse in my opinion.

if it was a more moderate dem like clinton running today instead of kerry, bush might be in big trouble. but, a vote against bush is a vote for the most liberal member of congress and the majority of americans just can't stomach that.

 

[xpanda]

Fox News' take on the flurry of activity in the market today ... note: not one word on last night's debate.

Stocks Open New Quarter With Rally
Friday, October 01, 2004

NEW YORK *—*Stocks rose sharply*Friday as investors welcomed the departure of PeopleSoft's chief executive and a pair of upgrades in the semiconductor sector* on*the opening day of the fourth quarter.

In mid-afternoon*trading Friday, the blue-chip Dow Jones industrial average (search)*was up*83 points at 10,163*while the technology-packed Nasdaq Composite Index (search)*was up 35 points at 1,932. The broader Standard & Poor's 500 Index (search)*was up 13 points at 1,127.

With the*Institute of Supply Management's (search)*manufacturing index posting the 16th straight month of growth in the sector, investors' optimism over the strength of the economy was renewed. Strong increases in construction spending also improved the market's mood,

Analysts continued to keep a close watch on ouil prices, but despite a bump they said investors could mark the beginning of the quarter with a surge in stock buying. A barrel of light crude was quoted at $50.00, up 36 cents, on the*New York Mercantile Exchange (search).

"We've gotten through September, traditionally the worst month for stocks, in pretty good shape," said Joseph Keating, chief investment officer at AmSouth Asset Management. "If oil prices can move down further, I think we'll be set up nicely for a rally in November, December and early January."

PeopleSoft Inc. (PSFT) PeopleSoft surged $1.75 to $21.60 after the business software maker fired chief executive Craig Conway, replacing him with chairman and founder David Duffield. The company is currently fending off a $7.7 billion takeover bid by rival Oracle Corp. (ORCL), which gained 63 cents to $11.91 on the news.

"PeopleSoft is helping the markets," said Bernie Myszkowski, director of equity investments at ABN Amro Asset Management in Chicago. "One of the presidential debates is over and that is taking off the steam from what was going on (yesterday) ... a horrific day because of the Merck announcement and people are trying to reassess that situation at this point."

Thursday, the Dow closed down almost 60 points, dragged down by Merck & Co (MRK). The company announced a global withdrawal of a key company drug, sending its stock down 26 percent. Shares of Merck rose 2 percent, or 65 cents, to $33.65 on the New York Stock Exchange on Friday.

Investors were cheered by the latest ISM manufacturing index. The Setpember reading came in at 58.5 in September, slightly better than the 58.3 analysts had expected, but lower than the 59.0 reading in August.

(snip)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134208,00.html

 

[blueedwards]

these are financial notes. political factors are an huge influence on the markets. you need to read between the lines. you want to think that who wall street thinks will win the election has nothing to do with today's rally...more power to ya.

 

[TommyMullins]

General, Who The Fukk Are You Calling A Murderer? Dont You Have A Clue As To What Is Going On In The World? If You Want To Remain Alive You Damn Well Better Vote For George W Bush And Ensure That All Of Your Relatives, Friends (if You Have Any) And Neighbors Do The Same.

 

[xpanda]

these are financial notes. political factors are an huge influence on the markets. you need to read between the lines. you want to think that who wall street thinks will win the election has nothing to do with today's rally...more power to ya.

First, I said no such thing. Second, I don't think today's market jump had everything to do with last night's debate as you implied in your initial argument.

 

[blueedwards]

there were some upgrades to a few stocks and sectors by analysts today, along with positive news on the economy which is helping to fuel the markets higher. i believe that the market perception that bush was not hurt by last night's debate set the tone.

when oil prices rose again today, that confirmed it for me. rising oil prices have been hurting this market for weeks.

 

[GAMEFACE]

The so-called victory changes nothing. Kerry spun his positions all over the place, only a fool would believe anything Kerry was saying. If you're that much of a moron to believe all the pie in the sky "I would do better" **** then you were already voting for the clown. Kerry didn't change your mind. Kerry vs Kerry is alive and well.

 

[blueedwards]

agree

 

[xpanda]

That's rich coming from the guys willing to support a man (for President, not for like, oh, captain of the Pee Wee t-ball team) who spent half the debate 'ummm'-ing and stuttering and stammering. This is way beyond 'being a bad speaker.' Bush is not THAT bad of a speaker. Give the man a teleprompter and he's fine. This is about a man who thought Kerry would be weak during the debate and was immediately caught off guard. This is a man who obviously cannot think on his feet, cannot formulate proper sentences (anyone remember this: there's a uh uh uh ummmmmmmmm ..[looks down].... "group of folks") and cannot pronounce words that should be commonplace for world leaders (moo-laws.)

If you were the CEO of a company and one of your sales guys was pitching to a bigtime potential contract and came off like that he'd be fired in an instant. And, if not, then you should be.

So get off the 'all Kerry supporters are stubborn' as though not only do you not share the same trait, but that your 'resolution' is somehow based on a rational review and analysis of Bush's capabilities rather than a knee-jerk affiliation with the Republican party, no matter which chimpanzee they parade out in front of you.

 

[blueedwards]

you're right. let's vote for the best public speaker. afterall, if he can speak well in front of the camera's, he's gotta be able to run the country.

maybe the televagelists should run. some of those guys can talk circles around john kerry. they wear flashier suits too.

 

[JudgeWapner]

I am under the impression that we should be able to find a president who is competent and can actually speak to.Guess I'm, dreaming again.

 

[lander]

maybe the televagelists should run.

That's essentially what we've had the past four years. It clearly is not working -- and it's time for a change.

 

[blueedwards]

what took you so long lander?

 

[xpanda]

Blue: it isn't my assertion that a President be the best public speaker in the room ... my position is that he should, at the very least, not be a blabbering idiot.

Do you really want a President sitting down with foreign leaders, or policymakers, or what have you, and be unable to think on his feet? Part of what makes a leader great is their ability to command respect, much of which comes from their presentation style. While I'm not saying you need nothing less than another Churchill, certainly you want someone who doesn't say 'moo-lahs' or stammers for twenty seconds only to come up with 'group of folks'? A command of the English language should probably appear on the Presidential application form.

Can't you just imagine Bush at a G-8 Summit? The whole time he must be thinking 'thank god I have all these nukes or I'd be screwed.'