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Kraft took the punishment...must be guilty of something..

do you not understand the concept of an owners' agreement? he promised his partners and they promised him that they will abide by whatever the commissioner rules

the commissioner ruled the following, "The Patriots organization and Bill Belichick are completely absolved in this deflate-gate matter". However, he still punished them becasue he could.

Roger said they were innocent, you're going to have to take it up with him

the penalties make no sense
 

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I hate Goodell but you have to realize why it's hard for some people to buy into the fact that the NFL is just out to get the Patriots. The Patriots are good for the NFL. Kind of like the Yankees in baseball. And Robert Kraft is probably the most respected owner in the NFL or at least one of the most respected. Brady has been the face of the NFL for a long time. Why would they go after them if there wasn't something there. Personally I am so sick of hearing about this shit I just want it to end. There's an argument to be heard on both sides. Just settle it and go on. Brady trying to save his reputation isn't going to happen. The haters probably hated him before and those people aren't going to change no matter what. The people who loved him before will still love him. The people in between like me could give a shit about deflating footballs and realize how good he has been. He will still go down as one of the best QB's of all time. Just settle it.

what about this case makes sense? it's a cluster fuck from the very first lies the NFL spoon fed Mortensen. They lied right out of the gate and have been distorting / suppressing evidence for 7 months

let a third party hear the case, then we'll know more

I have no idea as to why, but I do believe there's more evidence supporting a witch hunt than there is that Brady ordered balls to be deflated (or that balls were even tampered with after being approved for the game)
 

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By a commish who has been exposed for picking his nose more than once.

facts are , we still have a fine , draft picks gone , and a QB suspension for cheating... you can blame whoever you want but we can't ignore it... On draft night when they skip over the Pats picks and Brady isn't playing on opening night , which facts are important ?
 

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I hate Goodell but you have to realize why it's hard for some people to buy into the fact that the NFL is just out to get the Patriots. The Patriots are good for the NFL. Kind of like the Yankees in baseball. And Robert Kraft is probably the most respected owner in the NFL or at least one of the most respected. Brady has been the face of the NFL for a long time. Why would they go after them if there wasn't something there. Personally I am so sick of hearing about this shit I just want it to end. There's an argument to be heard on both sides. Just settle it and go on. Brady trying to save his reputation isn't going to happen. The haters probably hated him before and those people aren't going to change no matter what. The people who loved him before will still love him. The people in between like me could give a shit about deflating footballs and realize how good he has been. He will still go down as one of the best QB's of all time. Just settle it.

Yeah.....this about sums it up.

Pats fans are a different breed. It's closer to a cult than anything else. Anybody that dare question them must be a "hater".

Regardless of the outcome ....Brady is one of the best of all time... And pats organization is one of the best in sports....but cheating surrounds this team and that is an undisputed fact.
 
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Yeah.....this about sums it up.

Pats fans are a different breed. It's closer to a cult than anything else. Anybody that dare question them must be a "hater".

Regardless of the outcome ....Brady is one of the best of all time... And pats organization is one of the best in sports....but cheating surrounds this team and that is an undisputed fact.


You're really dumb. Cheating surrounds many other NFL teams more than the Patriots. For example, Steelers are *way* bigger cheaters than the Pats. FACT.

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Patriots one of the least cheating teams in the NFL. FACT.

That list was torn apart in another thread months ago. Much of it laughed at as nonsense.

Cheating goes on throughout the NFL but it's part of the DNA with the patriots. Even with the stupid list of guys who did steroids in the 70's.....
 
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That list was torn apart in another thread months ago. Much of it laughed at as nonsense.

Cheating goes on throughout the NFL but it's part of the DNA with the patriots. Even with the stupid list of guys who did steroids in the 70's.....

Pathological liar.
 

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That list was torn apart in another thread months ago. Much of it laughed at as nonsense.

Cheating goes on throughout the NFL but it's part of the DNA with the patriots. Even with the stupid list of guys who did steroids in the 70's.....

we just have different standards for evidence, for facts, for truth, for justice, for measuring success and failure
 

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Patriots one of the least cheating teams in the NFL. FACT.

some people thinking weak accusations about altering footballs is damning

but stuff like actually being caught altering footballs is acceptable and doesn't warrant punishment (Vikings anyone)


Roger Goodall thinks just that, and he has his allies y'know
 

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some people thinking weak accusations about altering footballs is damning

but stuff like actually being caught altering footballs is acceptable and doesn't warrant punishment (Vikings anyone)


Roger Goodall thinks just that, and he has his allies y'know

Goodall is horrible and should have been fired for his Ray Rice disaster.

But pointing out that other teams cheat....is hardly a defense. Common sense is lost on pats fans for some reason.
 

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We're inching closer to the New England Patriots pretty much operating as a rogue operation, acting in contempt of the NFL offices and the 31 other teams.
The latest DGAD move ("don't give a darn," for this is a family site) was to tweet NFL broadcast partner ESPN's apology for twice referencing a report about Super Bowl XXXVI in recent weeks. The report ESPN was referencing was presumably the one that the Patriots taped the Rams' practice before that Super Bowl, and it was proven by the NFL to be untrue long ago.
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If ESPN was trying to hide the apology late at night, by saying it on air during "SportsCenter" at 12:20 a.m. ET, it didn't slip by the Patriots, who tweeted out the clip to their 1.52 million followers

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ESPN issues apology at 12:20 AM EST for once again lying about the Patriots, this time they had to apologize for saying the Patriots taped the Rams' practices, something that's been debunked a long time ago.

No wonder so many people are so misinformed. If it's on TV, it must be true.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...t-not-over-deflate-gate-report-141347869.html



PS: I love how the author finds blame in the Patriots for this fiasco too. He wants them to accept the bullshit idiots like him spew

priceless, fucking idiot
 

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Goodall is horrible and should have been fired for his Ray Rice disaster.

But pointing out that other teams cheat....is hardly a defense. Common sense is lost on pats fans for some reason.


"I don't cite or follow XYZ, as you're citing and relying on XYZ"

AK, is that you?
 

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"I don't cite or follow XYZ, as you're citing and relying on XYZ"

AK, is that you?

Does it really matter what anyone says to a patriots fan? Brady could be on video drowning puppies and you guys would come up with some conspiracy.

Cheating follows this team that's just reality.
 

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Federal Judge Richard Berman: "Roger Goodell made a quantum leap to take the Wells' report and arrive at the conclusions he reached" (paraphrasing)

quantum leap

  • 1. an abrupt transition of an electron, atom, or molecule from one quantum state to another, with the absorption or emission of a quantum.
  • 2.a huge, often sudden, increase or change in something.
  • "the quantum jump in Jamie's grades this semester are extremely encouraging"
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  • yet another federal judge calls Roger Goodell an idiot, he must be a Patriots' fan
 

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time time time, is on my side, yes it is

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