Boxslayer's CFB Championship Week (59-41, +21.50 units, 59%)

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Hey Box,

I've enjoyed watching your threads this season and I appreciate the work you do here. Wanted to know how many plays you anticipate for Saturday. Personally right now I'm leaning:

Navy -11
Troy -11
Arizona -10.5
Cincy -7.5

Yeah I know all favorites but I'm liking these lines.

And I know you'll analyze the SECCG from an unbiased system-related perspective, but from my heart's perspective....GO GATORS! :toast:
 

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Looks like whoever TCU gets matched up with they will be a solid bet in bowl season
 

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I for one am glad you are back.....thanks for sharing your thoughts....and picks!

i have been here, just not analyzing as much, making as many plays, etc.

excited to have the games start counting. not much more need to account for motivation, now we can just figure out who the better teams are. less variables to mess with, so it is always an exciting time of year.

good luck
 

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Good luck. Nice analysis on the Bulls.

I like the Bulls as well, but man, I am really scared to back them because of their god-awful defense.

good luck


I feel you. But 15 points is a ton, and the Bulls have an offense and QB that can go score for score.

GL whatever you decide.
 

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Hey Box,

I've enjoyed watching your threads this season and I appreciate the work you do here. Wanted to know how many plays you anticipate for Saturday. Personally right now I'm leaning:

Navy -11
Troy -11
Arizona -10.5
Cincy -7.5

Yeah I know all favorites but I'm liking these lines.

And I know you'll analyze the SECCG from an unbiased system-related perspective, but from my heart's perspective....GO GATORS! :toast:


Probably looking at a handful of plays. 3-4 I'd guess.

I'll have a full analysis of the SEC Championship game and I won't be betting on it for or against Florida as I have typically kept action off Gator games all year so I can enjoy them without subplots.

As soon as I get word on Percy Harvin, I will post my writeup.

GL
 

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Looks like whoever TCU gets matched up with they will be a solid bet in bowl season


Could be. Numbers are only one part of the handicapping equation and the numbers are a guide rather than an end all solution.

I have bet plenty of times against where the line value was, and won the majority of those bets this year.

That being said, TCU looks to be a very solid team that could hang with almost anyone. Doesn't mean they will match up well vs. their bowl opponent though. Have to see who they end up playing.
 

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Hey Box, i just chimed in to your threads, can you tell me or share your formula...i see the ranking but is there a thread that explains your formula...thanks in advanced...
 

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SEC Championship - Florida vs. Alabama

The Line: Line is currently at -10. We may have a case here for the obvious underdog, #1 undefeated, Alabama getting double digits with Nick Saban? Then you have the obvious favorite: Florida steamrolling through everyone now only laying 10 points to a Bama team that everyone believes to be completely overrated and the benefactor of of tight wins.

Similar to a good poker player, I am trying to always figure out my table perception; that is, how the table views me as a player (aggressive, weak, slow player, etc). What I mean by that, is I always like to figure out which side I am on in the book's eyes and how my bet would be viewed - sharp or square/public. And this is one game because of the line where I can't figure it out. That tells me this is a legit line, no fishy spreads, line is set just right to get even action. Looking at a few sites I use, the action appears to be pretty even at 50/50. The books aren't cheering for any team in particular, IMO, just hoping the game stays off the #10.

Motivation: BAMA. They are coming into this game eerily similiar to many national champions in the past few years: tight games, vs. a high scoring offense that has been blowing people out, getting NO RESPECT. Florida/Oklahoma appears to be a foregone conclusion.

General Analysis: I could sit here and write a novel of why each team will win or lose this game. If Bama can run the ball effectively, chew up clock, keep Florida's offense on the sidelines, and wear this defense down, Bama has a good chance to win this game.

Percy Harvin's injury is also a major concern. He is one of the only players in the country who is literally unstoppable. He has never been shut down, and in many tight Auburn slugfests vs. Florida, Percy became a one man show on offense. He is one of the only upperclassmen playmakers for the Gators, he was the MVP of this SEC Title Game in 2006, and he makes everyone on the field better. If he plays, and plays near 100%, I would lay a lot of money on FL.

I've liked Bama all week, I've been thinking how their line is similar to Ole Miss' and the Gator D-Line is a potential weakness of this team. I've been thinking about how Bama has been disrespected, and Nick Saban is not a chopped liver coach. I've been thinking about a lot of things as to why Bama can come out and wear Florida down.

But the bottom line in this game, is one team has PROVEN MONEY players, and the other one doesn't.

It starts with Tim Tebow. You can say whatever you want about Tebow. Love him, hate him, whatever. Bottom line, Tebow is and will go down as one of the greatest QBs in the history of college football. This kid isnt just some good QB, and he will be one of the better QBs in Florida history, and Florida will get a guy just like him next recruiting class. He is a special, special, special, special player that you may not see again in this lifetime. I have been a sports fan and really been in involed with all athletics for a long time, and this kid is one of a kind.

I say that, because I believe great people are destined for great things. He is probably not going to do much in the NFL, and this moment, this game, and the potential next game will be his legacy. You don't bet against Joe Montana or Tom Brady when the chips are in the center of the table. Great players, do great things. You fade the overrated David Klingler's and Ryan Leafs. You bet on Tim Tebows.

In my opinion, the way Florida is playing, the way Tebow is playing, and the overall dominant TALENT and SPEED that has been assembled on this team in a very USC-like nature, is something that will take a monumental effort to bring down now that it is money time.

This Bama team is a very good team, but they are not even close to being the type of overall team that will take down this machine.

Urban Meyer is THE best big game coach in America. Hands down. Dating back to his days at Utah, to his SEC and National Title as an outmacthed Florida coach, to being an astounding 12-1 against his traditional rivals at Florida, to being back in the big game now with his recruiting classes and his 4* and 5* players. What has been assembled here has matured, while Bama is still maturing.

In the end, Florida has too many X-Factors in this game: SPECIAL TEAMS, Tim Tebow, Urban Meyer, etc.

I know it sounds very "Rah-Rah". I understand how it looks. But I have said this same angle numerous times when betting on other eerily similar spots in other sports. This game is basically a bet of whether you think the Gators and Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer are for real or not. If you think they are for real, you have to be able to see ahead of what the consequences will be of failure or victory and what it will do to Meyer's and Tebow's legacy to move on to a National Title. And I think they are for real.

Florida will win this game. The health of Percy Harvin will play a part in determining this spread.

Recommendations:

NO HARVIN, NO PLAY.
Florida 31
Bama 21


HARVIN IN: 3* Florida Gators -10

Florida 38
Bama 21
 
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Chomp Chomp tomorrow bud, me and my boy may end up in a fist fight.

Been arguing with him all year that Florida would beat Bama.

GL Box, really liking your team to cover.
 

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2* Missouri Tigers +17 -110

I have watched about 7 full Oklahoma games this year, and they are the best team in the Big 12. But I am not buying the hype that they should be 17 point favorites in this game. While everyone talks about how Bama and Florida is the game of the century and the two contrasting styles and this and that bla bla bla, this is the game that is falling under the radar - telling bettors subconsciously that Oklahoma easily wins this game - otherwise it would be discussed more, wouldn't it? Everyone is assuming here, moreso than the Gator/Bama game, that Oklahoma waltzes to the National Title game.

Bob Stoops teams do not fare well when everyone thinks they are going to win - starting with the game most fresh in everyone's mind the BCS Game when they were supposed to waltz over Boise State.

Stoops campaigned hard via the scoreboard and post-game press conferences to get his team to this point: the Big 12 Title Game. It came down to the final few weeks, where they had perfect storm type of games, pushed VERY hard via no huddle and late scoring to put up 60 PPG and impress pollsters as much as possible. It has to be somewhat anti-climatic now that they are here. I really think a National Title Game is on the back of their mind, especially with everyone picking Oklahoma easily in the very few times that this game is discussed.

Missouri, meanwhile, will probably not be changing much about their bowl status if they win. Nothing to play for beyond the horizon. JUST THIS GAME. This game, vs. this team, is the closest they will come to a National Title Game this year. What a way to make some noise across the country with Missouri knocking off Oklahoma in this Big 12 Title Game.

All along it has been Texas/Oklahoma, and the Longhorns and Sooners. And even a little about Texas Tech. Meanwhile, Missouri knew they were in this game, they were focused on this game and they have been ready to roll.

Major motivation advantage to Missouri in this game. They are not being talked about, they were written off a long time ago.

I mean, at one point in the season everyone thought Missouri was the best team in the Big 12. Everyone thought this offense was unstoppable. And Chase Daniel was well on his way to a Heisman.

Even with a few guys knocked up, Missouri is a very dangerous, underrated, disrespected, underdog team in this game, getting far too many points. Oklahoma doesnt have to score 60 to get into the title game and keep up with their style points. They really just have to win.

Whenever you lay this many points, you better have a good defense, or an offense that can't score on the opposing side, or both. In this game, you actually have a poor defense in Oklahoma and an offense who can score in bunches in Missouri.

This Oklahoma defense is putrid. PUTRID. They've basically given up 30 PPG+ the past 7 games. They got a late cover last week vs. OK ST who was going score for score all game. They brewed the perfect storm vs. an overrated Tech team that couldnt play D or protect the QB.

Mizzou, meanwhile, played in a meaningless game last week. They lost, and are unintentionally playing possum. You can bet for sure that Oklahoma knows Mizzou lost last week and may let their guard down.

The Sooners look very strong at home, but they dont look as good on a neutral site.

Mizzou bounces back very well from losses ATS as the Tigers are 7-2 ATS in their last 9 games following a ATS loss and the Tigers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games following a S.U. loss. Finally, the Underdog is 4-1 ATS in their last 5 meetings.

Expect Mizzou to come out FIRED UP, get on the board first and play Oklahoma TOUGH.

Oklahoma 45
Missouri 34
 

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