This is strange i must say..texas 1/2 NL....I have pair of kings and was the big blind...i raise pre flop and am called by 2 players. On the flop it comes 2 spades and another king..i have three kinds..i bet 5.00 and am raised another 10..wtf...does he have pocke aces...i reraise even higher he goes all in and i call...turn card is a queen..turns out he has you ready for this....A 4 spad...he had nothing except a possible flush and goes all in with a king on the board...what do u know..on the river he gets a spade to get the flush....why was i pushed so agreesivley..to make the pot higher...then the most interesting of things happens..he leaves the table after his big win.....i know PPP has had questions...i like to hear the other...please chime in....
Saying that the deal is fair (that may be a stretch but lets say it is), heres the other problem you run into at bodog..the guy who called you with 3 to a flush? how much gig he have in his sportsbook account? 3g's? 5 g's?...the point is who knows....the 25 or so he bet into that pot might have been chicken scratch to him.....ok i have no clue but other than out and out cheating by the site what other explanation could there be? the players could be so bad that you have 9 goofballs against your best hand preflop trying to draw out on ya every hand...another losing proposition. ive found very few if any players who have won at bodog over the long run...i wont try it again
The other explanation is that there are some players who, once they flop a nut flush draw, will never fold no matter what kind of pressure you put on them. They have no concept of pot/implied odds...they just know that they stand to stack you if they catch the fifth card. Coincidentally, these are the same players who will call a raise if they have a suited ace.
It's like a scene from Dirty Harry. "I happen to be holding a set of kings. The most powerful handgun in the world. [etc.] Now you have to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
If you're getting better than 2 to 1 on your bet and the villain is 3.5 to 1 to catch his flush and even if he does you've got 10 outs to beat him anyway you call his all-in bet or shove and hope he calls.
And sometimes you get beat. That's poker. Make sure you're bankrolled for the game you are playing. If you are these things won't hurt nearly as much.
It's like a scene from Dirty Harry. "I happen to be holding a set of kings. The most powerful handgun in the world. [etc.] Now you have to ask yourself, 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"
If you're getting better than 2 to 1 on your bet and the villain is 3.5 to 1 to catch his flush and even if he does you've got 10 outs to beat him anyway you call his all-in bet or shove and hope he calls.
And sometimes you get beat. That's poker. Make sure you're bankrolled for the game you are playing. If you are these things won't hurt nearly as much.
Look, people that complain about a play like that, you need to realize, you are playing poker and things like that happen.
honestly, did the guy make a bad play or get lucky? let's look at it this way. You raised so you have a good hand. Then you automatically bet out right? Ok, so he raises you - it's what's known as a SEMIBLUFF. Is he somewhat bluffing here? Yeah, but he's got a solid chance to win this hand. And on top of that, what do you do there if you have JJ or QQ? I think there's a solid chance you fold. Now that you reraised, he's sort of priced in (you didn't say how much was in his stack).
Look the guy made a play, it wasn't a terrible play because it got you thinking, he had several outs to win, etc...Yeah, he got called on it, but it worked out in his favor - you might want to look at how he played that hand and you might learn from it, rather than just bitching about it. It's one thing that people that complain about bad beats don't understand...it wasn't always that bad of a beat.
And Bodog being flush happy or cheating players, come on now, that just doesn't make any sense. Give up on the conspiracy crap fellas. And PPP, players trying to draw out on you is what you want in poker. If you can't handle the times it goes against you, poker is most certainly not the game for you.
honestly, did the guy make a bad play or get lucky? let's look at it this way. You raised so you have a good hand. Then you automatically bet out right? Ok, so he raises you - it's what's known as a SEMIBLUFF. Is he somewhat bluffing here? Yeah, but he's got a solid chance to win this hand. And on top of that, what do you do there if you have JJ or QQ? I think there's a solid chance you fold. Now that you reraised, he's sort of priced in (you didn't say how much was in his stack).
Look the guy made a play, it wasn't a terrible play because it got you thinking, he had several outs to win, etc...Yeah, he got called on it, but it worked out in his favor - you might want to look at how he played that hand and you might learn from it, rather than just bitching about it. It's one thing that people that complain about bad beats don't understand...it wasn't always that bad of a beat.
And Bodog being flush happy or cheating players, come on now, that just doesn't make any sense. Give up on the conspiracy crap fellas. And PPP, players trying to draw out on you is what you want in poker. If you can't handle the times it goes against you, poker is most certainly not the game for you.
hockey8799 said:
You must not play poker very often. I see this play every single day. And thats just on the hands that I see the showdown. Im sure it happens countless times that I dont know about when these flush chasers drop out after the river.
While everyone is chastising you, I'll sympathize. Bad beats hurt. I've had too many to count. I once had someone chasing me, the board was A,Q,6. I raised preflop with AQ, 2 to the flop-$20 bet, plyr one drops, plyr 2 calls, (this was at a 1/2 table!) Turn was a 2, $25 bet, he calls, river is an 8. I go all in he calls, and turns up POCKET 8's?????????????:finger:
QuickLearner said:
I've never had the huge bankroll to play poker and withstand the bad beats. But when you take time and think about it, it makes perfect sense. You want those people to chase thats how you make money. But you'd have to have known that he was going for the flush especially after the semibluff that he made. I am very leary of betting hands like that at all. Maybe thats why I am just an above average player. I am not saying to FOLD the hand but at least a check after the flop to see what his betting action is. Then call whatever he does..even if he does go all in. You know that you put your money in with the best hand.
I'd rather put my money in knowing I got the best hand right then at that moment. Not the BEST drawing hand. You just have to remember when you did that to someone. Chased a drawing hand and hit.
IF he doesnt push all in...and you just call..wait for the turn. If a spade misses try a check/raise. The river of course is self explanatory...no spade you had best be pushing like no other.
Nothing strange about the guy getting up and leaving. But then again...no one really knows for sure if any of these places use bots. I can see both sides of the argument.
But your thinking he had pocket ACES makes me believe that an ace was on the flop. Which if was the case then his actions are totally justified.
