Biz - U r an honorable and straightforward and above board poster - I have read some of your posts in other threads - and what u have to remember this is the Anonymous Internet where posters can live in fantasy land and make up and change things - I agree completely with u about the posts U have made in some threads - many are Not here for the same reasons as u r - there is one poster who has a 59-2 record as u know and at 59-2 the 2 loses in his chase system = - 172 loses each loss = approximately -86 units a good number because this system should be eighty sixth and Flushed down a toilet - so record is 59 - 172 so obviously he needs attention and is Not playing the system - there is another chase system of 2nd quarters but he was straight forward and told everyone that on his 4 chase each Loss was - 18.50 units he stopped playing this system and 86ixed it as it went 37-2 and was even - I noticed u had some tough losses and I wish u better luck -