look i could care less is you believe me or not but REAL BOOKIES LAY OFF THERE HEAVY ACTION THAT IS A FACT. if you don't you are not a bookmaker you are a gambler.
think about it logically and you might get it...if you morons that blindly follow BB plays think that well whatever everyone is betting if i bet the opposite i will win because bookies never lose, you will not win and sports betting period. bookies never lose BECAUSE THEY DON'T RISK ANYTHING!!!! You can't lose if there is no risk. the goal of EVERY FUCKING BOOKIE IN THE WORLD IS TO GET EVEN ACTION ON BOTH SIDES AND COLLECT THE VIG THAT IS A FACT. if you call yourself a bookie and that is not your goal you are not a bookie, you are betting that your clients will lose more bets then they win...real bookies could care less about the outcome of games because there smart enough to guarantee themselves a profit and grind out a living. i will bet everything i own that BB has a real job and does this on the side which is what 95% of your fucking so called bookies do. its just a way to gamble without having to pick your own games.
now granted you can't get 100% even action on all games but you need to get close to that to have a real successful long standing business...you might have a couple good years but if you don't lay off you will eventually have a year where you will lose money and if you lose money in a business it is not a real buisness
you morons really don't get it...do you idiots know that vegas casinos have computer programs that tells them how much action they can take on one side.
for exapmle if you try to lay 15K on a game at the Wynn. they will check to see where there action is a depending upon how much action they have on your side will determine if they will take your bet...if your betting on the side where they have too much action already, they may only take a couple grand from you.
the same goes for big time mob controlled book operations. they have computer systems that will tell the book manager what he needs to layoff to one of 2 spots. either off shore book accounts or alot of these guys have "runners" in vegas that are ready at a moments notice to layoff the action that is needed. that is why i laugh at people that follow these big money bets at these big time casinos...they could be laying off money for the book operation back home yet morons follow these big bets like there guaranteed to win
people will never learn this but the only way to win at gambling is by studying hard and handicapping the matchups. the best way is to get as much local info on the teams as possible and obviously if you have access to any inside info with the teams that would be a big help. but fading the public and betting with the big money moves and shit like that won't help you win jack shit...you will eventually lose with that attitude...granted it is nice to at least know what the public is favoring but to bet a team just because the public is backing the other side is just plain insanity
Have nothing against BB and not intending to bash. Assuming he is what he is representing and his info his accurate then he is providing information which is what the forum is all about. That information can be used as just one of MANY tools when figuring out whether to put money on a game.
That being said cannot understand why people are betting games JUST on whether BB needs a side. It makes no sense. He is just one book of thousands across the globe and in many cases may not even be close to representative of where the public is on a game. Also you have no idea whether his action could be shaded because of middlers, other bookies laying off, or sharps laying into him. Not to mention his "needed games" are based on total money wagered not even percentages of bettors on the game. So you could have just 2 Joe publics on a certain side mixed in with a few large sharp wagers and its becomes a "needed game" but in reality is not even a public game.
He gives out a ton of games which means even if his picks were true representative of public action you would have to play every game which means you need deep pockets and are going to get juiced to death. You can't just pick and choose which games to play because obviously the public does win some games. Not to mention this is the internet. Unless you personally know the guy and his business you have no idea as to his intentions in posting these plays. Don't really understand why a bookie would post legitimate info on his needs in a gambling forum aimed at beating those same books.
People playing games STRICTLY on his games IGO are just as dumb as the joe public bettor.
That being said cannot understand why people are betting games JUST on whether BB needs a side. It makes no sense. He is just one book of thousands across the globe and in many cases may not even be close to representative of where the public is on a game. Also you have no idea whether his action could be shaded because of middlers, other bookies laying off, or sharps laying into him. Not to mention his "needed games" are based on total money wagered not even percentages of bettors on the game. So you could have just 2 Joe publics on a certain side mixed in with a few large sharp wagers and its becomes a "needed game" but in reality is not even a public game.
He gives out a ton of games which means even if his picks were true representative of public action you would have to play every game which means you need deep pockets and are going to get juiced to death. You can't just pick and choose which games to play because obviously the public does win some games. Not to mention this is the internet. Unless you personally know the guy and his business you have no idea as to his intentions in posting these plays. Don't really understand why a bookie would post legitimate info on his needs in a gambling forum aimed at beating those same books.
People playing games STRICTLY on his games IGO are just as dumb as the joe public bettor.
IMO, you should stick to this - not because I don't want to read what you have to say, but because it becomes a no-win situation for you when you try to appease everyone. It's clear that when the whiners complain after each loss, it bothers you because you want to help the board out. But these guys have to learn to roll with the punches. Sometimes you get defensive and post previous records, try to explain what happened, apologize, etc. This just creates a big headache for yourself and isn't worth it. If they aren't happy with the results, so be it. Like you said, your YTD records speak for themselves. This past weekend, you went on a bad streak and started creating all these new non-picks threads, promising things would turn around, explaining about your 2H guru, etc.
Gamblers aren't the most rational people anyway...if they're gonna lose tailing your picks, it'll be due to poor money management - not because you didn't give winners. You can't always win and if people don't have the patience/discipline to deal w/ it, that's their bad, not yours. You don't owe anyone anything and it's not worth beating yourself up over because $20 internet bettors can't make decisions for themselves.
AGREE 100% GoGo! When its all said and done, its each persons cash! And any smart gambler should go with his instincts. Less bets and more research will help your odds tremendously.
BB gives good information, so maybe some other bookies could add as to what they need. Just ask your local bookie(s) who they need, they will tell you. The six locals i know will certainly say because they want more even action.
Our Soprano society lends itself to many people small and large who want to book for the easy coin. There also are prisons, so everybody be should watch the rearview mirror.
Sunday nite was still FABULOUS! How bout them CowBoyZ?
Good Luck All :toast:
That may be true but for others to be up like you they have to follow every single play and get the exact same lines as you. They can't pick and choose which games to play and you give out a ton of games. They also need to have constant forum access to get every play you make. Don't think any of that is a reality for most it not all. Say they miss a few days where you abnormally hit 70%. They then follow and you hit a streak of 40%. Where does that leave them? Again not critiquing necessarily the information you are providing but just not understanding the mindset of the people that are using your games as their only criteria to bet a game.
This is very true.
I am a tout basher and feel all touts that are not monitored are hiding something.
Those that are get exposed and come up with this crap that they didn't get the same line they gave their players and that some times they forget to submit plays and blah blah blah
And I respond yeah right the off lines never go your way and you forget to submit and had all winners never a loser.:lol:
