Basketball : Greece + 20 vs USA , gift ?

[RupertPupkin]

Actually opened 32.5, not 33. This was before the U.S./Angola game was completed, and with a $100 max bet. Line was bet down to 25 within 30 min.

when I click on Pinny on donbest , the opener shows 23 for that game

 

[rjt721]

when I click on Pinny on donbest , the opener shows 23 for that game

Don't know what to tell you. Maybe 23 is the number Pinny reposted with higher limits. Plenty of others have confirmed a 32.5 opener if you think I'm bullshitting you.

 

[bullets]

Line opened 25 at Cris

Rupert, any chance you can tell me where you get cris openers at?

Thanks.

 

[Degz]

Seriously ... I think USA will have trouble with a team that is gonna play defense unlike China or Angola . Greece has very solid team and no doubt will play tight basketball tomorrow and not run and gun style .
Think 20 points is sure worth a try , USA aint gonna destroy those guys .

Game will not be close. USA wants revenge from 2006 FIBA.. I say USA by 30..

 

[OTK]

Greece is the second best team in the tourney IMO, although you could easily argue Spain is better (they play Spain again it's 50/50 whether they beat them or not).

This is a game I strangley think that USA could cover in. Greece is a team that could keep them within 5 points and it wouldn't surprise me at all, but just when everybody is going against the US, that is when they will finally cover.

Fading them the entire way would have been smart though. I can't see them going any better than 2-6/3-5 ATS, although they will win gold easily.

 

[2PLAYSMAX]

Greece is the second best team in the tourney IMO, although you could easily argue Spain is better (they play Spain again it's 50/50 whether they beat them or not).

This is a game I strangley think that USA could cover in. Greece is a team that could keep them within 5 points and it wouldn't surprise me at all, but just when everybody is going against the US, that is when they will finally cover.

Fading them the entire way would have been smart though. I can't see them going any better than 2-6/3-5 ATS, although they will win gold easily.

I agree this is the game I think they will cover. I'm putting a 100.00 bucks on it for the hell of it.

 

[TheBrainiac]

USA is the real deal , they got gold , put your farm on it amigos

 

[KennyB]

Looks like the US team that can't shoot 3's used the 3 at the end to gain the cover.

 

[bigtendominator]

The UNDER is the play here tonight. The US will lock them up defensively

arty:arty:

 

[TheBrainiac]

Good call big . USA all the way to the bank . Waiting for my 3000 $ when USA takes teh GOLD

 

[bigtendominator]

Good call big . USA all the way to the bank . Waiting for my 3000 $ when USA takes teh GOLD

that was good play. This team is playing like teams in the past should have played. They are approaching it with a serious not seen by any of the teams using pros.

Only suspense remains is who gets the right to lose for the silver and who wins bronze.

 

[SkinsRaj28]

that was good play. This team is playing like teams in the past should have played. They are approaching it with a serious not seen by any of the teams using pros.

Only suspense remains is who gets the right to lose for the silver and who wins bronze.

With all due respect, this team is just a lot better than the U.S. teams of the past six years. A LOT better. The teams of the past couldn't play that well because they just weren't very good.

 

[bigtendominator]

With all due respect, this team is just a lot better than the U.S. teams of the past six years. A LOT better. The teams of the past couldn't play that well because they just weren't very good.

You are 100% right, but even the teams that lost never imo seemed to make the effort. I think most thought they could show up and just win.

 

[go2guy]

With all due respect, this team is just a lot better than the U.S. teams of the past six years. A LOT better. The teams of the past couldn't play that well because they just weren't very good.

Seriously, what is it I'm missing? I had them to cover and they won but I wasn't really impressed with what I saw. The D was pretty good until they got lazy and starting let Greece give and go and off screen them to death. I just think they are the better team in the tourney based off athleticism and the world teams right now can't measure up to the in your face pressure D. Maybe I expected more after watching their game against China and not see missed fast break opps., sub 60% FT shooting and a lot of wide open missed jumpers.

 

[RupertPupkin]

Don't know what to tell you. Maybe 23 is the number Pinny reposted with higher limits. Plenty of others have confirmed a 32.5 opener if you think I'm bullshitting you.

I don't what to tell you other than no way that game opened 33 and closed 20. Maybe Pinnacle hung a bad line and you were the only one who saw it before it was immediately changed, or maybe their dyslexic lines guy was working the openers that morning, who knows, as for the "plenty" of others who confirmed ... Who are these people ??


Brainiac , if you have Don Best you can click on any game and it will show you whatever book your lined up with under the collumns- opened at.

 

[rjt721]

I don't what to tell you other than no way that game opened 33 and closed 20.

Why? Movement like that occurs all the time, which is why the initial max bet was only $100. Pinny does that often -- release a line early with low limits to allow the market to set the line while providing little risk to the book. I'd say it worked in this instance.

as for the "plenty" of others who confirmed ... Who are these people ??

Other forums. I'd link you, but I don't think RX would appreciate me posting links to other forums.

 

[RupertPupkin]

Why? Movement like that occurs all the time, which is why the initial max bet was only $100. Pinny does that often -- release a line early with low limits to allow the market to set the line while providing little risk to the book. I'd say it worked in this instance.


Other forums. I'd link you, but I don't think RX would appreciate me posting links to other forums.

Heres some prominent books and their opening numbers on that game

Cris 25
Greek 24
Grande 21
Jazz 24
5 Dimes 24
Cascade 22.5
ABC 24
Don Best opening # 24
according to Don Best Pinny 25

BUT According to RJT21 , Pinny had 33 ???

No way pal, you read that line wrong , Pinny might had 33 dog 350 or something , but no way in Hell they had 33 Flat , especially when all these other books were dealing something 8-12 pts less. Just admit , you were wrong , and lets move on.


coo coo coo

 

[steaktartar]

Heres some prominent books and their opening numbers on that game

Cris 25
Greek 24
Grande 21
Jazz 24
5 Dimes 24
Cascade 22.5
ABC 24
Don Best opening # 24
according to Don Best Pinny 25

BUT According to RJT21 , Pinny had 33 ???

No way pal, you read that line wrong , Pinny might had 33 dog 350 or something , but no way in Hell they had 33 Flat , especially when all these other books were dealing something 8-12 pts less. Just admit , you were wrong , and lets move on.


coo coo coo

game opened anywhere from 23 1/2 to 25 and went down........the 33 he is thinking of was china or something

 

[rjt721]

Heres some prominent books and their opening numbers on that game

Cris 25
Greek 24
Grande 21
Jazz 24
5 Dimes 24
Cascade 22.5
ABC 24
Don Best opening # 24
according to Don Best Pinny 25

5Dimes and BetCascade are prominent books? :lol:

BUT According to RJT21 , Pinny had 33 ???

No way pal, you read that line wrong , Pinny might had 33 dog 350 or something , but no way in Hell they had 33 Flat , especially when all these other books were dealing something 8-12 pts less.

I said 32.5. But apparently I'm making it up because you can't comprehend a line moving 12 pts. from the opener.

Just admit , you were wrong , and lets move on.

I admit I'm right and you're wrong.

 

[Santo]

Pinny did open in the mid 30s, quite possibly 33 for small limits, long before the other books had lines up