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HatTrick nailed it... It was 5D.
 

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Oh yeah, and if you sign up there please use the link up top. Makes all the folks at theRX look good.
 

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As we get closer to fight night I like K-Flo more and more. Will be Kenny's toughest test to date but he knows what it takes to win. Kenny gets better each and every fight. Looks to be a match up of a up and comer vs. a fighter thats on the decline. Give me the fast improving, up and comer.
 

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How is BJ Penn on the decline? He fought the pound for pound best fighter in the world a weight class above and now he is on the decline. Shit before that he KO'ed Sean Sherk and everyone was saying how unstoppable he was.
 

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Ya'll are crazy to say Florian is better than Penn at this point in their careers. Florian hasn't done squat. Can't wait til fight night. Huerta is rubbish.
No way in hell Florian's stand up looks like Machida's. Not even close.
 

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Ya'll are crazy to say Florian is better than Penn at this point in their careers. Florian hasn't done squat. Can't wait til fight night. Huerta is rubbish.
No way in hell Florian's stand up looks like Machida's. Not even close.

Many similarities in their styles.
 

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How is BJ Penn on the decline? He fought the pound for pound best fighter in the world a weight class above and now he is on the decline. Shit before that he KO'ed Sean Sherk and everyone was saying how unstoppable he was.


I take my statement back about BJ on the decline. I do know many people thought BJ would beat GSP. BJ looked terrible in that fight and got his ass handed to him. K-FLO would have defnitely put up a better fight than BJ did against GSP.

I also know is Kenny is getting better and better with each and every fight. He'll be in the best shape of his life. If fight last 5 rounds we all know BJ will be gassed. Kenny has great endurance and has a big heart. Can't wait to see the fight.

I'm liking Kenny alot, just like I liked GSP.
 

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BJ has never gassed at lw. Kenny is the man but I dont see how he wins this unless its a machida like performance, sticking and moving.
 

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BJ has never gassed at lw. Kenny is the man but I dont see how he wins this unless its a machida like performance, sticking and moving.


No value in taking Penn -240. My opinion is this fight should be even money. I believe I remember BJ fought Jens Pulver a couple of times. K-Flo is 4 times as tough as little evil. We will see this Saturday night.
 

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No value in taking Penn -240. My opinion is this fight should be even money. I believe I remember BJ fought Jens Pulver a couple of times. K-Flo is 4 times as tough as little evil. We will see this Saturday night.

Glad to see I'm not alone.
 

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You can now get +205 on K-Flo. a lot of BJ love out there. Then again there was a lot of BJ love when he got destroyed by GSP. So many people actually thought BJ could beat GSP! LOL Hopefully this fight will show the elastic man is overrated.
 

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K-Flo now +220 at 5dimes. This line has to move down closer to fight. I'm making a good bet at plus 220.
 

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K-Flo now +220 at 5dimes. This line has to move down closer to fight. I'm making a good bet at plus 220.

Don't bet on it going lower...you may be able to get more closer to fight time at a better price. BJ is just better in every aspect & hard to believe he's 2 yrs younger than KenFlo
 

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After a forgettable performance against UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre in January, B.J. Penn has vowed to show up in the best shape of his life for the UFC 101 “Declaration” main event this Saturday at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia.

The UFC lightweight champion will have his hands full against top contender Kenny Florian, who has not lost a fight in almost three years.

Sherdog.com recently spoke to dozens of professional fighters and trainers and found out where they stood on this lightweight showdown.

Pete Sell: I think B.J. is going to come out hungry with something to prove because of his last loss. The only problem is that Kenny always comes in sick shape, and B.J. is known for not always being in [good shape]. I feel B.J. has the advantage on the floor. Kenny’s advantage with his Thai boxing might make this one an upset.

Scott Bieri: Both of these guys serve as examples of the evolution of this sport, [with] good skill sets in all areas. And Florian gets my vote for the most improved fighter; his run to this point has been amazing. Kenny can decision B.J. with his movement and striking. But the likely outcome is that Penn gets on top, passes to half guard, underhooks the pass side (his head is a counter balance on the mount side), stuffs the already smashed butterfly hook and steps to mount. From here, B.J. finishes fights. No one can seem to duplicate or defend this. Penn wins.

Frank Shamrock: B.J. Penn all the way. He’s too big for Kenny, and I think he will KO him.

Erik Paulson: The fight between B.J. and Florian will be a good one. I know that B.J.’s camp has been hard because he’s been out here training very hard with some of the best guys. And Kenny is with his guys at his camp training hard at his camp. Both are doing whatever it takes to win. I truly think it will be hard for Florian to win this fight, unless he cuts B.J. with one of his sharp elbows. If B.J. can stay in shape and keep to [the] game plan, [he’ll win]. Kudos to both, and I can’t wait to watch. It should be exciting to watch.

Jason Lambert: B.J. and Kenny are both really tough guys. Can’t call this one.

Robert Drysdale: B.J. -- decision.

Shannon Gugerty: I got B.J. I like Kenny a lot, but all B.J. in this one.

Zac George: B.J. is a beast and will bully “KenFlo” early, but I see Florian getting the judges’ nod after five B.J.-tiring rounds.

Nick Thompson: I think Kenny shocks the world and wins a unanimous decision.

Greg Nelson: All in all, I think if B.J. is serious and in shape he wins. This is going to be very fun to watch.


Dave Mandel/Sherdog.com


According to the pros, Kenny
Florian won't have much to
smile about at UFC 101 vs. Penn.Travis Lutter: B.J., I think, will be too much for Florian. I think B.J. is better across the board than Florian. Maybe Florian’s cardio is better, but I think B.J. will control the pace.

Rory Markham: I have to go with Penn on this fight. As improved as Kenny is, I think B.J. is the more well-rounded fighter. Both fighters are true warriors. Kenny is one of the most improved guys in the game, but B.J.’s experience in big fights will be the deciding factor in this match.

Jeff Monson: B.J. Penn by decision.

Jaime Fletcher: B.J. by second-round TKO or submission. Nothing against “KenFlo.” It’s just that I think Penn is too experienced, explosive and mean for Florian to remain competitive in this bout.

Travis Wiuff: B.J. by whatever he wants. Don’t see this fight lasting long. An in-shape and motivated B.J. Penn at 155 pounds is unbeatable.

Cung Le: B.J. by decision.

Jake Shields: I was at B.J.’s camp for a few days, so I would rather not pick a winner. It would not seem right.

Robin Black: Man, B.J. is angry and has a lot to prove. With that comes a lot of pressure. Kenny Florian has proven to be money come fight time in his last few fights. He is able to perform at his very, very best under the lights. I could see the pressure getting to Penn, him trying to over-perform and Florian taking this one. It’s gonna be an exciting fight.

Billy MacDonald: While Kenny Florian has quickly become one of my favorites to watch, I just can’t pick against an in-shape B.J. Penn. I’m probably the only person to have not seen the video of Penn jumping out of the pool, but I sure did hear about it enough. I see this fight being back and forth for most of three rounds, and then B.J. gets his hand raised.

Jamie Varner: Penn.

Stav Economou: B.J. Penn all the way. The only way Florian will win is on points, and I don’t really see that happening, either. Penn to win via TKO in the third round.

Scott Epstein: Penn can dominate the ground all around and looks to have heavier hands. This doesn’t mean I think he will sub Ken or knock him out, but it can win Penn a decision. Ken can be elusive and has the kicking game in his favor, not to mention the box cutters stored in his elbows. Look for Ken to wear B.J. down with leg kicks and slice his face up with freshly sharpened X-acto Knives. It’s up in the air.

Michael Guymon: I hate to say this, but Kenny takes this one.

Gabe Ruediger: B.J. should win this. Florian has improved dramatically and has been impressive, but B.J. is on another level at 155 pounds. I have a feeling he will be hungry after a loss and will win convincingly

Rick Roufus: B.J. has to win. He has to prove he’s the man at 155 pounds. He has to dig deep and show what he’s made of. B.J. [wins] within three [rounds]. I believe the last fight gave him a gut check, and now he has to return to his dominant self.

James Zikic: B.J Penn -- unanimous decision

Stephane Vigneault: I was a big fan of B.J. before, but not anymore since the stupid controversy with GSP. All my heart is with Kenny. I saw him training with us at Zahabi MMA. He is ready. I see Kenny by split decision.

Patrick Cote: I am going with my man Kenny. He is the most underrated fighter in the UFC.

Thomas Denny: It’s hard to bet against B.J. at 155. I will say a great fight with B.J. getting the nod after five rounds. “KenFlo,” I think, is the second best at 155. I see it making for a great rematch, as well.

Eddy Millis: I have B.J. Penn in this one. I have a lot of respect for Florian; I just think BJ will beat him in the stand-up game. B.J. has to come in great shape, though.

Kevin Burns: I like B.J. in this fight, unless it goes into later rounds. That’s always been his crutch, and Kenny is always in great shape.

Pros that picked Penn: 20
Pros that picked Florian: 6
Pros that could not decide: 4
 

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Easy... Because BJ whipped the shit out of GSP the first time they fought.

Didn't he still lose. He broke GSP's nose in 1st round but still lost?
He also lost to Jens Pulver. How do you explain that.

Elastic man isn't invisible man. K-Flo is a better MMA fighter. We will see Saturday night.

P.S. Didn't Lesnar whip the shit out of Mir in fight 1, but you still picked Mir to win fight 2.
 

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Just watched the weigh-ins across the street. Florian looked like shit, Penn looked less chubby than ever

Over two-to-one have to back the dog on this one, but really did not like what I saw this afternoon
 

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