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Looking at tonight's game you have a team in C Michigan that played to an offense that produced 25.8ppg the first half of the season and 34.7ppg the second half, so they got progressively better as the season went on, the problem was their defense got progressively worse from 27.8ppg allowed 1st half, to 33.7ppg allowed 2nd half. Your looking at a team that was producing 14 more points in their games from mid-season on. FAU 19.3ppg in the first half of the season (better comp), to 35ppg 2nd half, vs competition more in tuned to what they will face here, while the defense allowed 30ppg. neither team showed the ability to stop a good offense, and when you get to the 30ppg range your a good offense, and when your allowing 30ppg your a bad defense. The question is then, what have these teams done to patch up the holes? What has their opponent gleaned from the film to exploit? What effect will the FAU suspensions have on the offense? This one opened at 63, but has been bet up heavily to 69 last check, could push 70 by kickoff. That means a full TD and conversion of value to an under player, or chewed up value to an over player. It changes the points scored per minute from 1.05 at 63 to 1.17 at 70. You have to then look at yards per play for each team, and extract it from the "like" defenses they played on their schedules, and equate it to points, and the points per minute needed to cover. Time of possession in those "like" games divided by the points scored, will give you the point per minute figure to use as a basis of value, and show you where the true value lies. I just gave you a formula to do your bidding the rest is up to you, but that is my first approach and if it shows value on either side, then you must calcualte intangibles, to get a feel for the true value. Good luck.
 

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The facts are that most games go over simply because one team or both don't play good defense or there are an inordinate amount of turnovers or special teams plays. The facts about this game is you have two conferences that by nature score and give up a lot of points during the season, and especially in bowls. Last year the 3 teams from the MAC gave up 51, 52 and 63 points in their bowls. This conference has been down by their standards for the last couple of years. And it has been because of their lack of defense. It wouldn't surprise me at all if a semi-crippled FAU team put up 35 or more on CM tonight. The question is how many CM will score.
 

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This is very similar to a major part of my capping.Like teams ,like defenses, yardage , but not as important as points.(yardage)Also layoff plays into it,coaches, there are a million factors that can be capped. Sometimes, when you think about it, we are betting on 18-22 year olds who are closer to teenagers than adults.That we need to know if they got drunk and laid in the last couple days, it is unreal!! There are no sure things!!!! Good luck to you, sir. Thanks again for all input.We are here to provide positive influence to each other and I appreciate your input! ATLSLIM
Looking at tonight's game you have a team in C Michigan that played to an offense that produced 25.8ppg the first half of the season and 34.7ppg the second half, so they got progressively better as the season went on, the problem was their defense got progressively worse from 27.8ppg allowed 1st half, to 33.7ppg allowed 2nd half. Your looking at a team that was producing 14 more points in their games from mid-season on. FAU 19.3ppg in the first half of the season (better comp), to 35ppg 2nd half, vs competition more in tuned to what they will face here, while the defense allowed 30ppg. neither team showed the ability to stop a good offense, and when you get to the 30ppg range your a good offense, and when your allowing 30ppg your a bad defense. The question is then, what have these teams done to patch up the holes? What has their opponent gleaned from the film to exploit? What effect will the FAU suspensions have on the offense? This one opened at 63, but has been bet up heavily to 69 last check, could push 70 by kickoff. That means a full TD and conversion of value to an under player, or chewed up value to an over player. It changes the points scored per minute from 1.05 at 63 to 1.17 at 70. You have to then look at yards per play for each team, and extract it from the "like" defenses they played on their schedules, and equate it to points, and the points per minute needed to cover. Time of possession in those "like" games divided by the points scored, will give you the point per minute figure to use as a basis of value, and show you where the true value lies. I just gave you a formula to do your bidding the rest is up to you, but that is my first approach and if it shows value on either side, then you must calcualte intangibles, to get a feel for the true value. Good luck.
 

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Thank you, now that is a cordial capper, many here will just try to pick apart positive input, your comment is greatly appreciated and I wholeheartedly agree, most seem to get that concept, but sadly some don't! Thanks for taking the high road!
 

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No sir, thank you. It is everybody's job to help each other in this war with the books!!!!!We are wagering on human beings, not dogs or horses, so the human element is probably 50% of the equation. There are NO LOCKS in this game, Crush the books!!!! ATLSLIM
Thank you, now that is a cordial capper, many here will just try to pick apart positive input, your comment is greatly appreciated and I wholeheartedly agree, most seem to get that concept, but sadly some don't! Thanks for taking the high road!
 

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Mr. Mush10, my local (one of 2)went from 68.5 to 70 (12pm, then 6pm) I am getting in more at Under 70. Everbody seems to be on the Over! Better for the Under players!! Good luck!! ATLSLIM
I am in at 70. Let's get a nice start to the weekend's action.
 

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My book has it at 70. I was going to take the over, but now... I'm leaning UNDER... 10 TDS and I will still get a PUSH!!!
 

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Mr. JWinner, exactly!!10 tds and you push(with all conversions)!! Sounds like a winner to me!! Good luck! ATLSLIM
My book has it at 70. I was going to take the over, but now... I'm leaning UNDER... 10 TDS and I will still get a PUSH!!!
 

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Indoor facilities (pro stadiums) do strange thing to college football players (especially in ho-hum bowl games); strange surroundings make for lower scoring games.

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There is another factor in capping that we didn't mention(indoors and turf)It is generally assumed that those conditions contribute to the Over in this case, but hold on a second! Good point Mack Donald! Good luck!! ATLSLIM
Indoor facilities (pro stadiums) do strange thing to college football players (especially in ho-hum bowl games); strange surroundings make for lower scoring games.

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over under up to 71 ....... lots of over action????
 

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Mr. Jincka, you think it's sharp action or heavy public money, there are a lot of books that take in lots of public money!! Good luck!! ATLSLIM
over under up to 71 ....... lots of over action????
 

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i feel like its a little bit of both


it opened at 62 and had a quick jump (my guess is sharps hit it fast) ...... since then the public has driven it even higher.


im not playing the total but would take the under 71 small


GL ATL ..... I'll be rooting for a 7-0 Florida Atlantic win
 

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gl Slim on ur play tonite

but the way this line is moving you must wonder IF vegas needed over action they would have left it near 67-68. maybe even 69. i have to say this game will go over. its already moved almost 10 points already and yes you have a ton of value on ur Under play and i do wish you luck as I am not a big fan of totals-too many things can happen gl

Toby
 

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Thanks, Jincka! This total has swelled bigger than most! That is what makes me apprehensive. You think, what does somebody know that I don't know? Good luck!! ATLSLIM
i feel like its a little bit of both


it opened at 62 and had a quick jump (my guess is sharps hit it fast) ...... since then the public has driven it even higher.


im not playing the total but would take the under 71 small


GL ATL ..... I'll be rooting for a 7-0 Florida Atlantic win
 

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Toby1, you just came up with the perfect summation of the night, "too many things can happen." My feelings exactly!! There are no locks!! Crush the books!!! ATLSLIM
gl Slim on ur play tonite

but the way this line is moving you must wonder IF vegas needed over action they would have left it near 67-68. maybe even 69. i have to say this game will go over. its already moved almost 10 points already and yes you have a ton of value on ur Under play and i do wish you luck as I am not a big fan of totals-too many things can happen gl

Toby
 

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