As far as I'm concerned Michael Jackson was nothing but a child molester

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well, we don't *actually* know if he was a child molester.. in fact, plenty of evidence suggests otherwise, including his psychological profile from one of the top leaders in the field.

but what we *do* know, however, is that you (kind sir) have admitted to committing long-term adultery during your prior marriage.. correct?

just sayin' since the judgments are flying 'round and all.

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harrington is going to regret this thread after that bomb just thrown back at him.

its true. how can a guy, who admitted committing adultery on the forum judge someone else. i always wonder why this guy harrington would post irrelevent personal stuff week after week for no reason or cause.

im indifferent on the case. i already said im going to remember MJ from his jackson 5 days to his thriller days.

nobody knows what happened and nobody will ever know. dont waste time pondering on something you'll never know. i tell that to zit about kobe all the time. instead, recognize what you do know. king of pop, 750 million albums, global icon, etc.
 

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Michael was a pedophile. Pedophilia is a disorder that occurs when a young boy is molested by an adult male. When the molestation occurs between the ages of 4 to 8 it creates havoc with one's sexual identity. "Dang when that guy touched me there, it felt good, but I'm a boy, am I gay? maybe I'm a more of a girl, but I like girls ,but i also like when that guy touches me." Michael was molested and his sexual identity problems began then. When a boy is molested, the psychological devastation causes him to become a perpetrator, a pedophile later on in life as he subconsciously tries to undue the harm by acting out sexually against small boys. The victim also becomes infantilized ala Michael, stagnated in their emotional development.

Pedophilia is a sad disorder there is no cure. Most Pedophiles will tell you that the sexual urges to touch little boys is uncontrollable. Some will opt for castration, usually chemical in order live in society amongst us.

90% of the time that there is a child abduction by a stranger, police turn to the sexual registry, the perpetrator usually lives in the neighborhood and is quickly caught,

Michael Jackson was a classic pedophile, a victim as much as he was a perpetrator. He was a talented but sick man. He tried to put his demons down by daily injections of Demerol which in the end killed him.

Hopefully Michael was able to keep his hands off his 3 children. Only time will tell. If he did not, they will also become perpetrators and then you will remember this post.

Pray for Michael's children, its too late to pray for him.
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And so far I've never seen anybody come out with outright proof of his guilt. So no matter how you feel about him or how weird he is, his presumed guilt is still assumption, not fact.

Some people are too hard headed to get it.
 

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Michael was a pedophile. Pedophilia is a disorder that occurs when a young boy is molested by an adult male. When the molestation occurs between the ages of 4 to 8 it creates havoc with one's sexual identity. "Dang when that guy touched me there, it felt good, but I'm a boy, am I gay? maybe I'm a more of a girl, but I like girls ,but i also like when that guy touches me." Michael was molested and his sexual identity problems began then. When a boy is molested, the psychological devastation causes him to become a perpetrator, a pedophile later on in life as he subconsciously tries to undue the harm by acting out sexually against small boys. The victim also becomes infantilized ala Michael, stagnated in their emotional development.

Pedophilia is a sad disorder there is no cure. Most Pedophiles will tell you that the sexual urges to touch little boys is uncontrollable. Some will opt for castration, usually chemical in order live in society amongst us.

90% of the time that there is a child abduction by a stranger, police turn to the sexual registry, the perpetrator usually lives in the neighborhood and is quickly caught,

Michael Jackson was a classic pedophile, a victim as much as he was a perpetrator. He was a talented but sick man. He tried to put his demons down by daily injections of Demerol which in the end killed him.

Hopefully Michael was able to keep his hands off his 3 children. Only time will tell. If he did not, they will also become perpetrators and then you will remember this post.

Pray for Michael's children, its too late to pray for him.
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Again..it's just your opinion...not a fact.
 

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he was a strange guy, i dont think anyone will argue that.

like i always say though, don't waste time judging things you dont know unless you have the facts and evidence to back them up, which nobody has here.
 

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I love hearing the apologists for Michael claim that he never did anything wrong. Common, no matter how much you liked him, sleeping in the same bed as young buys is wrong. End of story. Lets not forget all of his bizarre behavior over the years. The disfigurement to his face, trying to make his skin white, waving the baby over the balcony. The list goes on.
 

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Was he a strange man? Yes.
MJ was strange in a lot of ways, starting with and not ending with that obsession over Diana Ross.
But he was a genius, and you know what they say about genius, that there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

He came from a dirt poor ghetto, Gary Indiana, and came from a highly dysfunctional family, his dad Joe was very abusive.
This is what I belive, I believe the truth is someplace in the middle, I believe his love for kids was sincere, and he showed it in a strange way, but I also believe there were parents looking to cash in on that.

I think MJ died from a combination of stress, chemicals and other factors.

I choose to remember MJ as a giant amongt giants in the entertainment industry, as the man the redefined the pop era.
He's in the same class as Elvis (antother strange man) and Sinatra.

RIP MJ
 

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IF You're Equating Child Molestation With Adultery

well, we don't *actually* know if he was a child molester.. in fact, plenty of evidence suggests otherwise, including his psychological profile from one of the top leaders in the field.

but what we *do* know, however, is that you (kind sir) have admitted to committing long-term adultery during your prior marriage.. correct?

just sayin' since the judgments are flying 'round and all.

Then you're a moron, and "I'm just sayin"!
 

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i dont think so.......ive been wrong before........i dont think he had sex with those kids..........i do believe as strange as he was he liked their company........he himself had trouble with the real world and enjoyed being a kid..........and enjoyed the company of children.........for their honesty and purity(hopefully)....he may have been a sicko but we would've heard about it before or stuff on inet.........soliciting children..........at one time he was a rich cat........he couldve got kids from anywhere(poor kids from mexico or wherever) and had all the dirty sex he wanted.........i dont think that is why he hung around kids........i think he did it because he could be himself and not deal with the real world



agree 100 %

i blame his father for most of the weirdness MJ became. i would love to know the real story of his childhood and just how much he was abused.

i think his dad is the real piece of shit in all this.

there are a million questions surrounding this dude...

why all the plastic surgery ?

did he really have vitiligo ?

how did he go from the guy who made " off the wall " to this completely other person ?
 

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I am one of the biggest MJ fans around, have always loved his music and showmanship, and yes , without a doubt, i will admit he was a very "weird" person...however, there is a difference in being weird and being a child molester......to think that there is NO CHANCE those could have been extortion attempts just to get money since they knew he was odd anyway, is naive....we dont know 100% that is all they were, but there is certainly a great chance....

As many have said, if he simply wanted sex, he could have shipped em in, easily....

I truly beleive, his mental state, he believed he was a child himself......he never got his childhood that he wanted, and i think mentally he was trying to relive it later on, because he could afford to.......and yes, thats very eccentric, weird, and odd......but it doesnt mean you MOLESTED anyone.....and for those kids sakes, i certainly hope he didnt....

I dont find it odd at all if he had cameras in every room of his house....if u have that kind of money, you do that.....

I can never defend the fact that he was a very odd/troubled individual, but i really dont think we ever knew the real story.....we assumed alot of what we heard, since it went to court, and thought it MUST be true....and i dont really think most of it was.....

However, the one thing i do have proof of is he was one of the greatest entertainers any of us will ever see, and he did more for charity, than most anyone we will ever see......so those positives are what i'll remember, and thank goodness we still have his music, and videos to live on......

R.I.P
 

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I am one of the biggest MJ fans around, have always loved his music and showmanship, and yes , without a doubt, i will admit he was a very "weird" person...however, there is a difference in being weird and being a child molester......to think that there is NO CHANCE those could have been extortion attempts just to get money since they knew he was odd anyway, is naive....we dont know 100% that is all they were, but there is certainly a great chance....

As many have said, if he simply wanted sex, he could have shipped em in, easily....

I truly beleive, his mental state, he believed he was a child himself......he never got his childhood that he wanted, and i think mentally he was trying to relive it later on, because he could afford to.......and yes, thats very eccentric, weird, and odd......but it doesnt mean you MOLESTED anyone.....and for those kids sakes, i certainly hope he didnt....

I dont find it odd at all if he had cameras in every room of his house....if u have that kind of money, you do that.....

I can never defend the fact that he was a very odd/troubled individual, but i really dont think we ever knew the real story.....we assumed alot of what we heard, since it went to court, and thought it MUST be true....and i dont really think most of it was.....

However, the one thing i do have proof of is he was one of the greatest entertainers any of us will ever see, and he did more for charity, than most anyone we will ever see......so those positives are what i'll remember, and thank goodness we still have his music, and videos to live on......

R.I.P

I guess I might have rushed to judgement, but he put himself in many situations where it gets you thinking.
 

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thats just my opinion Harrington, and you are entitled to yours as well...no argument there..

and i agree, he NEVER helped himself by living the weird life that he did, he drew attention to himself, and made himself an easy target, there is no dispute
 

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you aint going to get far dissin jackson on this forum. im not even the biggest jackson fan but the majority of this forum grew up on his music.
 

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After someone dies, its probably best to think of the good side of that person, and MJ gave us plenty of reasons to see his good side. I'm not sure what happened in last several years, but we all do know, Your a target if your rich. This isn't the same as OJ, where their was monumental evidence, this was more of trying to get a accusation to stick !! I really enjoyed seeing some of those videos again, thats what I am remembering today
 

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Man, FUSE is showing a MJ tribute today, My Goodness that man had Fred Astair moves, better than Astair moves.
 

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