Are there any real Americans on this Forum who are for Kerry?

bblight · Sep 19, 2004

kaya - your ignorance of history is showing - back then, poor kids just didn't go to college. The civil structure to encourage social and economic mobility was rare in those few places it existed. Poor young men were draft fodder. Why do you think that the percentage of blacks in the military was just about double the percenatge of blacks in the US - most blacks were poor.

You're making the mistake of thinking that society was the same as it is now, and you couldn't be more wrong. The country was very conservative; institutionalized bigotry and segregation were a fact. Censorship was common. Conformity was the norm and was strictly enforced.

By the way kaya, whether you enlisted or got drafted, you earned the GI Bill by serving!

Sonny - go back to the first post - I said that the most liberal posters on the board weren't even from the US - and I tweeked their noses by poking fun at their ethnicity. I never said that anyone who votes for Kerry is un-American - believe it or not, I fully support the rights of all Americans to vote for the candidate of their choice.
Although I hate Kerry as a traitor and a back stabber, if he were to become President I'd support him 100% - based on much of the vitriol I see here, how many people from the other side of the political spectrum could say that?

kayaman+ · Sep 19, 2004

"kaya - your ignorance of history is showing - back then, poor kids just didn't go to college. The civil structure to encourage social and economic mobility was rare in those few places it existed. Poor young men were draft fodder. Why do you think that the percentage of blacks in the military was just about double the percenatge of blacks in the US - most blacks were poor."

Haven't forgotten that at all, my dad went on the freedom rides when he was 16 to help protest segregation (I'm from a white family by the way) so yeah I've heard a little about it. And I'm also aware of the way the draft worked, in the beginning at least, and that middle class whites got out of service by being enrolled in college. That's why I said wouldn't it have been easier to get an academic scholarship.
If you're saying you're black I do understand why you would have had fewer options. On the other hand I still have more respect for the conscious objectors than those that let our government force them into that cluster phuck. Either way my point still stands because I didn't say "just go to college", I said that earining and academic scholarship through good grades is a much easier way of paying for your education than going to war for the G.I. bill.

"By the way kaya, whether you enlisted or got drafted, you earned the GI Bill by serving!"

I look at earn as more something you want and go after, in the case of being drafted and fullfilling I would call the G.I. Bill more like compensation.

"Although I hate Kerry as a traitor and a back stabber, if he were to become President I'd support him 100% - based on much of the vitriol I see here, how many people from the other side of the political spectrum could say that?"

Not many I hope! One of the means of keeping the government in check is resisting it when it's wrong. That's how women got the vote, Segregation ended, Nam ended, etc.