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As I said Fish, I can separate my views from my gambling. Thanks my friend.
Too much of a forest to see a tree for most I suppose.
 

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Fish, Wagering wise I just don't freekin know!? I am limiting my bet to $300 as that was my tax rebate from GW.

I guess I am going to break down the Electoriat for an hour or so and will post back.
 

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Jones- Hope all is going well sir......hows the health?

Give my best to the MRS.
 

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On Fox now in Ohio its Kerry 49% to Bush 45% with a 4% +/- margin so esentially this may be a dead heat there.
 

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As a citizen who has had not one but two Kerry stickers on the back of my pick-up truck since the stickers were first issued, I am more than happy by the recent turn of events.

As a gambler who had a mere few dollars on Kerry until having a couple of drinks with and listening to argueably the best gambler in the state of Florida early last week down here in north Tampa, I am elated to have added 20 times that the following day...........QUOTE from MR. JONES

I can vogue for MR. JONES on this one, very strong supporter of KERRY has evidenced by the stickers on the pick-up truck he spoke of.

However, residing in Tampa also, would like to meet this gambler Mr. Jones speaks so highly of. :3dman:
 

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As of last night Mr. Jones is semi-Canadian

Just joking Mr J, Tampa is warmer on your bones than your wallet.
 

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News from the Votemaster

Modern politics is (unfortunately) more about expectations than about reality. Consequently, Gallup ran a poll BEFORE the third debate asking who was going to win? The results: 54% expected Kerry to win, 36% expected Bush to win, 10% expected a tie.

Now for the actual results. After the debate, a Gallup poll showed Kerry to be the winner 52% to 39%, not far from expectations. A CBS poll of uncommitted voters after the debate showed that 39% thought Kerry had won and 25% thought Bush had won. An ABC News poll showed Kerry barely won, 42% to 41%. However, the ABC poll had 38% Republicans and 30% Democrats, so breaking even in a group skewed towards the GOP has to be considered a Kerry win. ARG didn't run a large-scale poll this time. Still, the clear conclusions: Kerry won the first and third debates; the second one was a tie. Cheney did better than his boss and won the VP debate.

A new ARG poll in Iowa makes that state a tie again, but other than that, no states changed today.

The Economist ran a national poll Oct. 11-12. It was a statistical tie, with Kerry at 47% and Bush at 45%. On the subject of Bush's job approval, 44% said he was doing a good job vs. 52% who said he wasn't. Since incumbents rarely score much above their approval rating, this has to be worrisome to Karl Rove. Of some note to people who have followed the "bulge" story, one of the questions The Economist asked was if the respondent saw the picture of Bush with the rectangular bulge. Of those who saw it, 49% said he was wired for getting help by radio. Fortunately for him, only a quarter of the respondents saw the photo. Several people from the TV world have told me that his poor performance in the first debate might have been due to the fact that it takes a lot of practice to listen and talk at the same time. The first few times you try it are said to be confusing.

Senate news: The salon.com story I referred to yesterday about Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) using a TelePrompTer during his debate with state senator Daniel Mon.. has been confirmed. The Kentucky Post reports that Bunning's campaign has admitted to using a TelePrompTer to read his opening and closing statements but says that was not cheating. Next question. Why would an incumbent U.S. senator who has given thousands of speeches on and off the floor of the Senate need a TelePrompTer? In a state as heavily Republican as Kentucky, all he would have had to do to be re-elected is to repeat three times: "I fully support President Bush and as a senator I will vote to give him whatever he requests to defeat the terrorists." My guess is (1) he has Alzheimer's disease and (2) Kentuckyans just love horse races and they are about to get one for the Senate. As soon as I can get my hands on a poll there, I will report it.

<HR>Projected Senate: 47 Democrats, 50 Republicans, 1 independent, 2 tossups
 

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In a way we need Bush to send missiles to blow up other Countries but as long as we do not send soldiers over I am all for it. I actually think we should drop pamphlets to the Iraqi people and give them notice to leave as then fuklkin bury them for good with A-Bombs.

On the other hand I like Kerry because of free sex and **** and free weed and open gambling. I am a liberal but I do know if he is elected China or India will eventually take us over but no biggie to me as long as I win bet.

I am voting for Kerry
 

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Tommy, although I am impressed with your passion, I disagree with you wholeheartedly...

Please answer me why such an honest man as BUSH and in your own words, "EXEMPLARY" would LIE as much as what we see below?


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[font=Verdana, Helvetica]Who Got Tax Cuts?[/font]




[font=Times New Roman, Times]Bush: He talks about middle-class tax cuts. That's exactly where the tax cuts went. Most of the tax cuts went to low- and middle-income Americans. And now the tax code is more fair. Twenty percent of the upper-income people pay about 80 percent of the taxes in America today because of how we structured the tax cuts.[/font]


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Bush said most of his tax cuts went to "low- and middle-income Americans" when independent calculations show most went to the richest 10 percent.​

[font=Arial, Helvetica]Wrong on Tax Cuts[/font]​

[font=Arial, Helvetica]Bush could hardly have been farther off base when he said most of his tax cuts "went to low- and middle-income Americans." That's just not true.[/font]

In fact, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center recently calculated that most of the tax cuts -- 53% to be exact -- went to the highest -earning 10% of US individuals and families.Those most affluent Americans got an average tax cut of $7,661.

And as for the "low- and middle-income Americans" Bush mentioned -- the bottom 60% of individuals and families got only 13.7% of the tax cuts, according to the Tax Policy Center, a far cry from "most" of the cuts as claimed by Bush.

[font=Arial, Helvetica]The President came closer to the mark, but still got it wrong, when he said in the same breath that the top 20% of earners pay "about 80% of the taxes in America today." That's incorrect.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica]In fact, as we reported only that morning, the Congressional Budget Office calculates that the top 20% now pay 63.5% of the total federal tax burden, which includes income taxes, payroll taxes and other federal levies. It's true that the top 20% pays nearly 81% of all federal income taxes, but the president spoke more expansively of "taxes in America," not just income taxes.[/font]



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[font=Verdana, Helvetica]Not That Concerned?[/font]




[font=Times New Roman, Times]Kerry: Six months after he said Osama bin Laden must be caught dead or alive, this president was asked, "Where is Osama bin Laden?" He said, "I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned."[/font]


</TD></TR><TR><TD>[font=Times New Roman, Times]Bush: Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations.[/font]


[font=Times New Roman, Times]Of course we're worried about Osama bin Laden. We're on the hunt after Osama bin Laden. We're using every asset at our disposal to get Osama bin Laden.[/font]


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[font=Arial, Helvetica]Wrong on Osama[/font]




[font=Arial, Helvetica]Bush stumbled when he denied making some remarks about Osama bin Laden that Kerry had accurately paraphrased. Bush accused Kerry of "one of those exaggerations."[/font]



[font=Arial, Helvetica]In fact, Bush said almost exactly what Kerry quoted him as saying. It was in a news conference at the White House on March 13, 2002, after US forces had overturned the Taliban regime in Afghanistan:[/font]
[font=Times New Roman, Times]Q (March 13, 2002): Mr. President, in your speeches now you rarely talk or mention Osama bin Laden. Why is that? . . .[/font]


[font=Times New Roman, Times]Bush: So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him , Kelly, to be honest with you.[/font] . . .

[font=Times New Roman, Times]Q: But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?[/font]

[font=Times New Roman, Times]Bush: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.[/font]



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[font=Verdana, Helvetica]Who Blocked Vaccine?[/font]




[font=Times New Roman, Times]Bush: Bob, we relied upon a company out of England to provide about half of the flu vaccines for the United States (sic) citizen, and it turned out that the vaccine they were producing was contaminated. And so we took the right action and didn't allow contaminated medicine into our country.[/font]


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[font=Arial, Helvetica]Wrong on Flu Vaccine[/font]




[font=Arial, Helvetica]It's not true, as Bush claimed, that "we took the right action" in blocking "contaminated" influenza vaccine from entering the US.[/font]​

[font=Arial, Helvetica]Actually, it was the British and not the US that blocked shipment. The British Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, according to an Oct. 6 news release, suspended the license of Chiron Corp., the manufacturer of approximately 50% of the U.S. supply.[/font]​

In fact, the Bush administration seems to have been caught by surprise when Chiron Corp. notified the US Center for Disease Control Oct. 5 that the company wouldn't be shipping the vaccine due to the British action. The US Food and Drug Administration didn't begin an investigation until five days later, according to an FDA news release .

[font=Arial, Helvetica]It's also not clear how much of the vaccine is actually contaminated. The British agency said it suspended Chiron's license because of "concerns of possible microbial contamination." And the FDA news release refers to "findings concerning the contamination of some lots."[/font]


 

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19 days away. I think bush will win, and I do not like it. What can you do? Enjoy one day at a time and watch as time passes.
 

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jjgold said:
In a way we need Bush to send missiles to blow up other Countries but as long as we do not send soldiers over I am all for it. I actually think we should drop pamphlets to the Iraqi people and give them notice to leave as then fuklkin bury them for good with A-Bombs.

On the other hand I like Kerry because of free sex and **** and free weed and open gambling. I am a liberal but I do know if he is elected China or India will eventually take us over but no biggie to me as long as I win bet.

I am voting for Kerry
Very refreshing honesty displayed here by JJGOLD.
 

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Over the years, I have found the American voter unable to remain focused for very long. Even though Kerry won each debate and gained significantly in the polls, with 19 days between now and the election, many, many Americans will forget what that have just witnessed and revert back to their basic biases. What is even more troubling is that due to the electoral process, a few swing states can and will determine the outcome of perhaps the most powerful, influential, and responsible position in the world. The President of this country can and will have a direct impact on the future of the world for the years in the future, not just the next 4 years. Witness the last 4 years. Hopefully, some day every vote cast by each American will be counted equally and the holder of this position will have actually won the majority of all votes that are cast regardless of which state one lives. My thoughts are with the young ones in this world who have no say but are having their future determined by their elders, hopefully responsibly.
 

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Distribution of Electoral Votes

Total Electoral Vote: 538

Needed to Elect: 270

<HR><!-- The following table has been generated by the Internet Assistant Wizard for Microsoft Excel. You can find this add-in on "http://www.microsoft.com/msoffice/freestuf/msexcel/index.htm" --><!-- START OF CONVERTED OUTPUT --><!-- ------------------------- --><TABLE width=515 border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle><TD width=161>[size=+3]State[/size]

</TD><TD width=119>[size=+2]1981-1990[/size]

</TD><TD width=117>[size=+2]1991-2000[/size]

</TD><TD width=117>[size=+2]2001-2010[/size]

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Alabama[/size]</TD><TD width=119>9</TD><TD width=117>9</TD><TD width=117>9</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Alaska[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Arizona[/size]</TD><TD width=119>7</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>10</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Arkansas[/size]</TD><TD width=119>6</TD><TD width=117>6</TD><TD width=117>6</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>California[/size]</TD><TD width=119>47</TD><TD width=117>54</TD><TD width=117>55</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Colorado[/size]</TD><TD width=119>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>9</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Connecticut[/size]</TD><TD width=119>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>7</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Delaware[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>D.C.[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Florida[/size]</TD><TD width=119>21</TD><TD width=117>25</TD><TD width=117>27</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Georgia[/size]</TD><TD width=119>12</TD><TD width=117>13</TD><TD width=117>15</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Hawaii[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Idaho[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Illinois[/size]</TD><TD width=119>24</TD><TD width=117>22</TD><TD width=117>21</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Indiana[/size]</TD><TD width=119>12</TD><TD width=117>12</TD><TD width=117>11</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Iowa[/size]</TD><TD width=119>8</TD><TD width=117>7</TD><TD width=117>7</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Kansas[/size]</TD><TD width=119>7</TD><TD width=117>6</TD><TD width=117>6</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Kentucky[/size]</TD><TD width=119>9</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Louisiana[/size]</TD><TD width=119>10</TD><TD width=117>9</TD><TD width=117>9</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Maine[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Maryland[/size]</TD><TD width=119>10</TD><TD width=117>10</TD><TD width=117>10</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Massachusetts[/size]</TD><TD width=119>13</TD><TD width=117>12</TD><TD width=117>12</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Michigan[/size]</TD><TD width=119>20</TD><TD width=117>18</TD><TD width=117>17</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Minnesota[/size]</TD><TD width=119>10</TD><TD width=117>10</TD><TD width=117>10</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Mississippi[/size]</TD><TD width=119>7</TD><TD width=117>7</TD><TD width=117>6</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Missouri[/size]</TD><TD width=119>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Montana[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Nebraska[/size]</TD><TD width=119>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Nevada[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>5</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>New Hampshire[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>New Jersey[/size]</TD><TD width=119>16</TD><TD width=117>15</TD><TD width=117>15</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>New Mexico[/size]</TD><TD width=119>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>New York[/size]</TD><TD width=119>36</TD><TD width=117>33</TD><TD width=117>31</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>North Carolina[/size]</TD><TD width=119>13</TD><TD width=117>14</TD><TD width=117>15</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>North Dakota[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Ohio[/size]</TD><TD width=119>23</TD><TD width=117>21</TD><TD width=117>20</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Oklahoma[/size]</TD><TD width=119>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>7</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Oregon[/size]</TD><TD width=119>7</TD><TD width=117>7</TD><TD width=117>7</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Pennsylvania[/size]</TD><TD width=119>25</TD><TD width=117>23</TD><TD width=117>21</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Rhode Island[/size]</TD><TD width=119>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD><TD width=117>4</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>South Carolina[/size]</TD><TD width=119>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD><TD width=117>8</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>South Dakota[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Tennessee[/size]</TD><TD width=119>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Texas[/size]</TD><TD width=119>29</TD><TD width=117>32</TD><TD width=117>34</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Utah[/size]</TD><TD width=119>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>[/size] </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Vermont[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Virginia[/size]</TD><TD width=119>12</TD><TD width=117>13</TD><TD width=117>13</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Washington[/size]</TD><TD width=119>10</TD><TD width=117>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>West Virginia[/size]</TD><TD width=119>6</TD><TD width=117>5</TD><TD width=117>5</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Wisconsin[/size]</TD><TD width=119>11</TD><TD width=117>11</TD><TD width=117>10</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle>[size=+1]<TD width=161>Wyoming[/size]</TD><TD width=119>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD><TD width=117>3</TD></TR><TR vAlign=bottom align=middle><TD width=161> </TD><TD width=119> </TD><TD width=117> </TD><TD width=117> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>Ok, we can all add and read, So what do we see?

California 55
New York 31
Ohio 20
Penn 21
Texas 34
Florida 27
Michigan 17
 

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Give Bush 4 more years and he will try to over turn the silent holocaust ROE V WADE :aktion033

That's what matters to me most in this election.
 

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