You make some good points American. You totally missed the point that without the usa there would be no options to take the money. Why do you think it happens!?!
As much as you want to preach on the virtues of the usa being so moral, the rest of the world has tought and learned so much on how polotics is really done without going to prison.....
Canuck
let me guess, a bush fan, too bad kerry wins, but that is not much of a step up either
As much as you want to preach on the virtues of the usa being so moral, the rest of the world has tought and learned so much on how polotics is really done without going to prison.....
Canuck
let me guess, a bush fan, too bad kerry wins, but that is not much of a step up either
I don't think the U.S.A. is "so moral". In fact, every nation in the world has blood on it's hands, and nearly all of us have done things in our lives that are morally questionable, so who's virtuous? The U.S.A. has and will continue to act solely in it's own interests. I don't know where this notion of the U.S. trying to be a moral leader for the world came from. We have no such obligations. America is true to itself and that's it (just like every other country is). What if I were to say that there are no good guys? Maybe we're all bad guys.canuck23 said:
As far as the Millicom and Harken situations we've discussed, you are correct...it took two to tango. You had CR, which would rather make a fast dollar than a slow fortune, welcoming those companies with fiendish delight and larceny in it's heart, waiting for the right time to grab the money. On the other side, you had Millicom and Harken greasing everyone in sight, driven by insatiable greed.
I am wondering how long does it take for this kind of "behavior" to "expire" (you know, the statue of limitations etc)
Arias must be involved also
Dont think Monge was because the country was bankrupt back then after Carazo and his dealings with the IMF but Arias must have had his share of "consulting business" with these people
Arias must be involved also
Dont think Monge was because the country was bankrupt back then after Carazo and his dealings with the IMF but Arias must have had his share of "consulting business" with these people
I heard that Arias got huge money from druglords transporting through CR. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but I'm sure he had a cash-funnelling system just like the rest of them.wolfie_cr said:
The biggest PRICK the people of CR should be looking at is JOHNNY ARAYA. I have first hand knowledge of him demanding and accepting bribes when he was in charge of the municipalidad a few years ago and controlled the new BUSINESS LICENSES that were being issued. If you wanted to get licenses and potentes for your business your had to grease that prick. I wish him ILL.
lesson of all this (at least in my head) is the every single thing no matter how big / small that ANY GOVERMENT does is inherently inefficient
goverments do nothing but stand in your way and when you finally succeed doing something that works (due to your own effort not because they helped in anyway) THEN its tax time! and you have to pay them because you unlucky soul managed to jump through all the laws/regulations/etc that they put in place to make it hard...........that's the way I see it
example
goverment = "online gaming is illegal, don't do it"
poor citizen =" I am sorry mr gov, I did it anyway and won"
goverment = "ahhhhhhhh you won, sneaky little you, ok I want my cut of that"
they should just the hell out of the way and "laissez faire, laissez passer"
goverments do nothing but stand in your way and when you finally succeed doing something that works (due to your own effort not because they helped in anyway) THEN its tax time! and you have to pay them because you unlucky soul managed to jump through all the laws/regulations/etc that they put in place to make it hard...........that's the way I see it
example
goverment = "online gaming is illegal, don't do it"
poor citizen =" I am sorry mr gov, I did it anyway and won"
goverment = "ahhhhhhhh you won, sneaky little you, ok I want my cut of that"
they should just the hell out of the way and "laissez faire, laissez passer"
Druglords? It was the US Government (CIA) transporting drugs through Costa Rica (and arms shipments to Nicaragua). You can read all about that in public documents here, along with a long list of U.S. government employees that are persona-non-gratis, forbidden to enter Costa Rica for narco-trafficking offenses.
Not to mention the so-called war on drugs in Colombia is just a cover for protecting Occidental Petroleum's oil assets. Tax payer money goes to the Colombia, oil money goes into US political re-election funds and offshore accounts.
Costa Rica bribery and corruption is banana-republic style, blatantly obvious and visible to everyone but the naive local populace. However, it is not even in the same league as the United States.
The grass is the same color everywhere, best keep the green stuff in your pocket and stop paying for your own servitude.
Not to mention the so-called war on drugs in Colombia is just a cover for protecting Occidental Petroleum's oil assets. Tax payer money goes to the Colombia, oil money goes into US political re-election funds and offshore accounts.
Costa Rica bribery and corruption is banana-republic style, blatantly obvious and visible to everyone but the naive local populace. However, it is not even in the same league as the United States.
The grass is the same color everywhere, best keep the green stuff in your pocket and stop paying for your own servitude.
Quick question guys. Who is investigating all these cases? And who gets to pick which people to go after?
( I beleive that most people that have the power to make a decision of wheather some official document get's issued that is needed for an/or individual/business to move forward.........is corrupt.)
My question is, can it possible that only some people are being targeted and not all, in the grand scheme of politics?
I haven't really been following things, so I welcome your informative replies.
( I beleive that most people that have the power to make a decision of wheather some official document get's issued that is needed for an/or individual/business to move forward.........is corrupt.)
My question is, can it possible that only some people are being targeted and not all, in the grand scheme of politics?
I haven't really been following things, so I welcome your informative replies.
What I heard was something like this
The real state agent of the house that got sold in Santa Ana for the very first corruption case of this series wasn't paid her commisions
She contacted the media and they started investigating and at some point they got the legal authorities involved
Can't confirm it obviously but heard it from more than 1 person (not that it matters either)
After the first one started it was easy, simply locate big goverment contracts and start tracking bank accounts
In my opinition their downfall is down right stupidity, if I had 735k USD that I got through dubious sources a) I would not deposit it in a bank b) you would probably never heard from me again c) I would be living in a beach in some tiny island for a GOOD while without making extravagant expenses
with that kind of money I can retire forever and live an excellent life but these idiots probably think that since they got away with it in the first place they can buy an incredibly expensive house/ give cars to everyone including the maid etc etc
The real state agent of the house that got sold in Santa Ana for the very first corruption case of this series wasn't paid her commisions
She contacted the media and they started investigating and at some point they got the legal authorities involved
Can't confirm it obviously but heard it from more than 1 person (not that it matters either)
After the first one started it was easy, simply locate big goverment contracts and start tracking bank accounts
In my opinition their downfall is down right stupidity, if I had 735k USD that I got through dubious sources a) I would not deposit it in a bank b) you would probably never heard from me again c) I would be living in a beach in some tiny island for a GOOD while without making extravagant expenses
with that kind of money I can retire forever and live an excellent life but these idiots probably think that since they got away with it in the first place they can buy an incredibly expensive house/ give cars to everyone including the maid etc etc
Wow...LMAO! Those clowns left a paper trail easier to follow than when I walked out of the Red Lobster men's room with 5 feet of toilet paper stuck to the heal of my shoe last week.wolfie_cr said:
I got the feeling they weren't very sophisticated. And it started with one of them trying to f*ck somebody over. The smartest one was Rodriguez, I think. He left the crime scene and got the hell out of CR as soon as his presidency was up. He was teaching at a university in Miami where he enjoyed such an upstanding reputation as a pillar in the international community. Now, maybe he can be some bad man's boyfrined at San Sebastian.
Eventually they are going to get to the current president Pacheco. There are all kinds of questionable and illegal foreign campaign contributions accepted by his party and deposited in Panama. His schtick is to act REAL stupid and say he doesn't know anything about it, but more eyes are looking in his direction every day. One of the most powerful members of Pacheco's ministry just stepped down from her ambassador's position in the Organization of American States (the same organization ex-Pres Rodriguez stepped down from after two weeks of being in charge) at the same time that she was named to be questioned by a committee looking into the fund raising of the last election. He's dirty too. They all are. How can Pacheco be clean? It's not mathematically plausible.
No one here in Costa Rica or other country are clean and cant say that they never did something wrong.
But here in Costa Rica these kind of things are done since long time ago, what happen is that now "someone talk" and they all get caught. Im still waiting to see more politicians involved in this crab, and for sure there are more.
What I think is that now that many are in jail, maybe the others are scare and wont do the same thing, or if they do it, they will not get that kind of money, or are going to do it carefully.
I wish that the "chorizo" stops, but Costa Rica is like other countries and our politicians are the same, they love money but they prefer easy money.
Now Im tired cause when I try to see the news all I saw there is the same images, the same story , Im tired now, but the problem is that I like CR a lot, so got to get used to see the same thing until is over.....
But here in Costa Rica these kind of things are done since long time ago, what happen is that now "someone talk" and they all get caught. Im still waiting to see more politicians involved in this crab, and for sure there are more.
What I think is that now that many are in jail, maybe the others are scare and wont do the same thing, or if they do it, they will not get that kind of money, or are going to do it carefully.
I wish that the "chorizo" stops, but Costa Rica is like other countries and our politicians are the same, they love money but they prefer easy money.
Now Im tired cause when I try to see the news all I saw there is the same images, the same story , Im tired now, but the problem is that I like CR a lot, so got to get used to see the same thing until is over.....
