Anyone else ever work a job that tipping is a huge part of your income? AreAfrican-American people the worst tippers for you as well?

[gremlin]

It is really funny how racially biased most of the posts here are. Is everyone really this small-minded as to think the world is only as big as your immediate surroundings and everything is as cut and dry as your tiny anecdotal amount of evidence? Things really are as you want to see them.

This morning there is a successful financial analyst eating brunch with his wife in Manhattan. They are ordering champagne mimosas, raw oysters and $98 steak and eggs while discussing which vintage Opus One they'll be opening that evening. When the white gloved server brings the bill the couple will tip 40% in cash and take their 2015 Mercedes back to their penthouse apartment overlooking Central Park. This couple is black.

A few hundred miles away a couple finishes angrily eating with their 5 noisy ass kids at a diner. All those mouths have totaled a $50 tab. They hardly have enough money to pay for the lot fees at their trailer park so they are paying for this measly breakfast with wrinkled up bills and spare change collected from under the car seats. They walk away from their messy booth leaving .04 cents as tip and a shitty diaper stuffed under the table. This family is white.

Perception is all about where you are and what you see.

Tipping has a lot more to do with your economic status and where you are from than it does with race no matter how stereotypical you want to be. As someone else pointed out it is also helpful if you have worked in a service industry before and know that the tips are how that person pays their rent and puts food on their table.. Not a paycheck.

 

[NFLTrends]

It is really funny how racially biased most of the posts here are. Is everyone really this small-minded as to think the world is only as big as your immediate surroundings and everything is as cut and dry as your tiny anecdotal amount of evidence? Things really are as you want to see them.

This morning there is a successful financial analyst eating brunch with his wife in Manhattan. They are ordering champagne mimosas, raw oysters and $98 steak and eggs while discussing which vintage Opus One they'll be opening that evening. When the white gloved server brings the bill the couple will tip 40% in cash and take their 2015 Mercedes back to their penthouse apartment overlooking Central Park. This couple is black.

A few hundred miles away a couple finishes angrily eating with their 5 noisy ass kids at a diner. All those mouths have totaled a $50 tab. They hardly have enough money to pay for the lot fees at their trailer park so they are paying for this measly breakfast with wrinkled up bills and spare change collected from under the car seats. They walk away from their messy booth leaving .04 cents as tip and a shitty diaper stuffed under the table. This family is white.

Perception is all about where you are and what you see.

Tipping has a lot more to do with your economic status and where you are from than it does with race no matter how stereotypical you want to be. As someone else pointed out it is also helpful if you have worked in a service industry before and know that the tips are how that person pays their rent and puts food on their table.. Not a paycheck.

Here in Vegas, I get people from ALL OVER the world, and like I stated, the black people from other countries do tip consistently. But, the black people from the US rarely tip. Just my observation... next time you are in Vegas, and take a taxi, ask the driver who the worst tippers are, and if they get excited to see the doorman that's waving them up when there are black people in line. I guarantee you that the answers are what I have posted in this thread.

 

[Ricboff]

Been driving for awhile, and it gets quite frustrating when you don't get tipped well (if at all) no matter how good of service you gave them, how fast, courteous, answered any and all questions they had, and had them laughing and gave them a good time.

This happens constantly.

Last night (Monday May 4th), first ride I pick up at the Palms. Im on the nut (first cab in line), and see an AA get in the cab line. I pull up and doorman puts them in. They are going from the Palms to the Paris. So Im asking where they are from, how they are enjoying themselves, if they have any crazy Vegas stories yet. I tell them a couple of my stories before we get there which had them laughing, and they even stated I "was one of the best cab drivers they had so far in Vegas". The fare was a whopping $8.81... So I get out, and open the doors for them. The man hands me two $5 bills. (Thinking I was getting the change of $1.19 as a tip) I say "Thanks, have a good night in there and good luck the rest of your stay in Vegas". Then, the man says "Don't I get any change?" .... Seriously???? So I give him $1 back. He then says "What about the rest of it?".... "I explain to him I don't carry change, change... and none of the other cabs drivers in town carry actually coin change". He got really upset about that and quickly turned and hustled into the Paris.

Tips so far: $0.19

Second ride, I get in line at the Paris. I get up to first in line, and a couple of African-American females are first in line when I get to the front. So doorman puts them in. They are going from Paris to the Stratosphere. So I ask them if they want to jump on the freeway and get there quick, or take the Strip route. They said "The fastest and cheapest". So I jump on the freeway, making small talk, complimenting them on how they look, tell them some of the good food specials near them cause they asked. So I pull up and the fare in $12.90. They then tell me "The other driver charged us almost $18 to get to Paris!" So they were quite happy I got them there a lot cheaper. So the girls are counting money and such, then hand me a $5 and some $1's, which I don't count right away. I open the doors for them, and wish them a good stay. So as they are walking away, I get back into the cab and count it... $13.... a whole $0.10 tip!!!

Tips so far: $0.29

Since I was at the Stratosphere, I jump in line there. After waiting maybe 20 minutes, Im in the front..... low and behold, another African-American couple. Doorman puts them in, and tells me they are going to downtown Fremont. first thing they ask me when I pull off is "How much is this going to cost?" (Automatic red-flag when people ask that, it usually means little or no tip). I explain to them its about $12-14 depending on traffic. They seemed happy with that. So on the way there is the PAWN STARS Gold and Silver Pawn shop. They ask me if it would be all right to stop real quick so they can take a picture in front of the building. I say "Ok, and tell you what, Ill shut off the meter so it doesn't charge you while waiting"... So I pull into the lot, they get out, take a few pics, have someone take a couple of picks of both of them. It didn't take long, maybe a couple of minutes. So they get in, and I restart the meter (not even a thank-you). So I get them to Fremont Street. The fare is $11.56 .... He hands me a $20. I hand him $8 change, and he stands there frozen. After a couple seconds I ask "Is something wrong?", and he says "You didn't give me the correct change"... I say "They fare is $11.56, and I gave you $8 back" I then explain to him about how many rides I do, and if I had to carry change my pockets would be bulging with change, and that no one usually asks for coin change, they usually give it to the drivers and include $1 or 2 for a tip. then he says "I don't believe in tipping, I worked to hard for my money" ... So he then hustles his wife to his side and they waddle down Fremont street. $0.44 even after I told them the sights to see and places to go on Fremont, and even saved them a couple bucks by stopping the meter!!

Tips so far: $0.73

It practically went on like this all night. I did 24 rides total and brought home $27 in tips.... Luckily there are a few conventions in town, and those guys tipped pretty decent.

Ive noticed that African_Americans are the worst tippers in the Taxi Industry, when they tip $1, you get stunned and surprised that they did.

Is this the same for all tipped employed positions? (Waiters/valet/doormen/ect)? All the other races tip fine and usually above average for me.

You seem to be judging your job performance based on tipping amounts? am i wrong?

they have no obligation to tip. If you LIKE your job, consider changing your thoughts; assume NO ONE will tip. And if someone does, be grateful. I think you'll find greater joy by doing so

 

[gremlin]

Here in Vegas, I get people from ALL OVER the world, and like I stated, the black people from other countries do tip consistently. But, the black people from the US rarely tip. Just my observation... next time you are in Vegas, and take a taxi, ask the driver who the worst tippers are, and if they get excited to see the doorman that's waving them up when there are black people in line. I guarantee you that the answers are what I have posted in this thread.

I don't mean to question your perception. But frankly that is all it is, your perception. And it is very very limited in the scope of the world. Let's say you've been a driver for a couple or even 10 or more years, and you get 15, 20, 30 fares per night. Of those fares let's say twenty or thirty percent of those fares are black people from the US. That means you have driven a few thousand black people at most(!) and surely you had heard the commonly held stereotype that black people are bad tippers long ago. Add in the number of times that a black person has actually stiffed you on a tip and your mind quickly generates and perpetuates the self-fulfilling prophecy that blacks are bad tippers. You unknowingly even create a negative mindset when you see a black person getting into your car, subconsciously. Now compare that to the billions of black people on the planet and the trillions of tipped transactions that take place involving black people each year. See how limited your individual view is?

Adding to all of this is the Las Vegas factor. If you are looking to spend money in Vegas, you probably call a black car or a limo service, or have a car arranged at the concierge. In a city that is all about spending money lavishly taxi fares will be the people who didn't want to shell out for a nicer ride and probably the people who already lost or spent too much that night. That quickly eliminates the higher end tippers from your possible fares.

 

[Shub]

I don't mean to question your perception. But frankly that is all it is, your perception. And it is very very limited in the scope of the world. Let's say you've been a driver for a couple or even 10 or more years, and you get 15, 20, 30 fares per night. Of those fares let's say twenty or thirty percent of those fares are black people from the US. That means you have driven a few thousand black people at most(!) and surely you had heard the commonly held stereotype that black people are bad tippers long ago. Add in the number of times that a black person has actually stiffed you on a tip and your mind quickly generates and perpetuates the self-fulfilling prophecy that blacks are bad tippers. You unknowingly even create a negative mindset when you see a black person getting into your car, subconsciously. Now compare that to the billions of black people on the planet and the trillions of tipped transactions that take place involving black people each year. See how limited your individual view is?

Adding to all of this is the Las Vegas factor. If you are looking to spend money in Vegas, you probably call a black car or a limo service, or have a car arranged at the concierge. In a city that is all about spending money lavishly taxi fares will be the people who didn't want to shell out for a nicer ride and probably the people who already lost or spent too much that night. That quickly eliminates the higher end tippers from your possible fares.

Well said

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

I will say I think expected tips are getting out of hand. For instance, tipping the pizza guy. They build the tip into the price. But yet, guilt you into paying for it. I don't want to screw over the guy so I do pick up if I can. If delivery I try to get the cost $17 so I can give the guy a 20 and we both feel OK about the transaction.

 

[HangFung]

I will say I think expected tips are getting out of hand. For instance, tipping the pizza guy. They build the tip into the price. But yet, guilt you into paying for it. I don't want to screw over the guy so I do pick up if I can. If delivery I try to get the cost $17 so I can give the guy a 20 and we both feel OK about the transaction.

is this before or after you piss on his head?

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

is this before or after you piss on his head?

I have only peed on girls. Most surprisingly are OK with it. If in the shower. In my youth, I didnt give 2 shits. I should be allowed to piss wherever.

 

[packer2012]

Even in your Cheerios?

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

Even in your Cheerios?

I dont do cereal. Oatmeal and eggs.

 

[bigbet1234]

It is really funny how racially biased most of the posts here are. Is everyone really this small-minded as to think the world is only as big as your immediate surroundings and everything is as cut and dry as your tiny anecdotal amount of evidence? Things really are as you want to see them.

This morning there is a successful financial analyst eating brunch with his wife in Manhattan. They are ordering champagne mimosas, raw oysters and $98 steak and eggs while discussing which vintage Opus One they'll be opening that evening. When the white gloved server brings the bill the couple will tip 40% in cash and take their 2015 Mercedes back to their penthouse apartment overlooking Central Park. This couple is black.

A few hundred miles away a couple finishes angrily eating with their 5 noisy ass kids at a diner. All those mouths have totaled a $50 tab. They hardly have enough money to pay for the lot fees at their trailer park so they are paying for this measly breakfast with wrinkled up bills and spare change collected from under the car seats. They walk away from their messy booth leaving .04 cents as tip and a shitty diaper stuffed under the table. This family is white.

Perception is all about where you are and what you see.

Tipping has a lot more to do with your economic status and where you are from than it does with race no matter how stereotypical you want to be. As someone else pointed out it is also helpful if you have worked in a service industry before and know that the tips are how that person pays their rent and puts food on their table.. Not a paycheck.

You seem to be small minded. We have a pretty large sample here from many states. You don't always have to be politically correct.

 

[bigbet1234]

I don't mean to question your perception. But frankly that is all it is, your perception. And it is very very limited in the scope of the world. Let's say you've been a driver for a couple or even 10 or more years, and you get 15, 20, 30 fares per night. Of those fares let's say twenty or thirty percent of those fares are black people from the US. That means you have driven a few thousand black people at most(!) and surely you had heard the commonly held stereotype that black people are bad tippers long ago. Add in the number of times that a black person has actually stiffed you on a tip and your mind quickly generates and perpetuates the self-fulfilling prophecy that blacks are bad tippers. You unknowingly even create a negative mindset when you see a black person getting into your car, subconsciously. Now compare that to the billions of black people on the planet and the trillions of tipped transactions that take place involving black people each year. See how limited your individual view is?

Adding to all of this is the Las Vegas factor. If you are looking to spend money in Vegas, you probably call a black car or a limo service, or have a car arranged at the concierge. In a city that is all about spending money lavishly taxi fares will be the people who didn't want to shell out for a nicer ride and probably the people who already lost or spent too much that night. That quickly eliminates the higher end tippers from your possible fares.

Then walk.

 

[KingofNicotine]

Don't take black customers if possible.

Have you seen the escort ads on backpage? Most of them specify they don't take black customers because they are cheap and will try to haggle or give the whores a bad time.

 

[gremlin]

You seem to be small minded. We have a pretty large sample here from many states. You don't always have to be politically correct.

I can dumb it down for you. Regardless of race, people who are well off and willing to spend more money on high end service are more likely to tip than low income individuals who can only afford base services. So since you are unhappy with the level of compensation you are receiving from tips, find a job a better establishment.

This is a socioeconomic trend, not a racial one. Small minds just don't understand.

 

[metro]

LOL yup and mash up their pussy badly

Don't take black customers if possible.

Have you seen the escort ads on backpage? Most of them specify they don't take black customers because they are cheap and will try to haggle or give the whores a bad time.

 

[CHOPTALK]

I can dumb it down for you. Regardless of race, people who are well off and willing to spend more money on high end service are more likely to tip than low income individuals who can only afford base services. So since you are unhappy with the level of compensation you are receiving from tips, find a job a better establishment.

This is a socioeconomic trend, not a racial one. Small minds just don't understand.

Trying to sound smart but you have the dumbest opinions in this thread bro.
Even black folk know they don't tip.

 

[Vlad the Impaler]

So question? Why am I considered " the racist" of the board? It is obvious others have encountered the same stuff.

 

[gremlin]

Trying to sound smart but you have the dumbest opinions in this thread bro.
Even black folk know they don't tip.

I am smart but I'm not trying to flaunt it. This thread is basically the same as folks who swear that "Asian people are bad drivers". It's a stereotype that people will defend rabidly because they have seen an old Asian lady struggling to make a turn. But anyone with more rational thought knows it is not rooted in truth. Asia has a really large population and it just so happens that a ton of Asians immigrate to the United States having never grown up around cars and never driven before. So yes, inexperienced Asian immigrants and the children they need to teach to drive have a steeper learning curve. But that has nothing to do with race. Just like black people and tipping.

It's like no one here knows what confirmation bias is. It's why you recall the things that reinforce your own stereotypes and worldview.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Cmon, Asian people are bad drivers

 

[REDEYE]

Trying to sound smart but you have the dumbest opinions in this thread bro.
Even black folk know they don't tip.

+1 some people just want to be PC even if certain things are staring them in the face