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Americans shrinking as junk food takes its toll

Poverty and poor diet mean the average US man is getting smaller, while Europeans keep growing taller

Robin McKie, science editor
Sunday April 4, 2004
The Observer

Researchers have made a startling discovery: Americans are shrinking. A nation once famed for its strapping, well-nourished youth is gradually diminishing in physical stature.
By contrast, the heights of men and women from Europe are increasing inexorably. The average Dutchman, whose country produces the Continent's loftiest men, is now more than six feet tall - almost two inches above his American counterpart. And he is still growing. Across the Netherlands hotel owners are lengthening beds and raising door mantles to stop the nation's tall youth suffering from irreparable anatomical damage.

According to a New Yorker essay on the subject last week, Dutch ambulances are even having to keep their back doors open on many occasions to allow for the prodigious dimensions of their patients' legs.

New research has shown some unexpected disparities between statures of Americans and Europeans, indicating that recent social changes and diet are major influences on adult height.

For British men, too, are outstripping their transatlantic rivals. At the time of the American Revolution, the average US male was two inches taller than his British counterpart. Today he is almost half an inch shorter.

This surprising reappraisal of American and European physiques is the work of researcher John Komlos of Munich University. 'Much of the difference is due to the great social inequality that now exists in the United States,' Komlos told The Observer last week. 'In Europe, there is - in most countries - good health service provision for most members of society and plenty of protein in most people's diets. As a result, children do not suffer illnesses that would blight their growth or suffer problems of malnutrition. For that reason, we have continued to grow and grow.'

On the other hand, America has eight million people with no job, 40 million individuals with no health insurance, 35 million living below the poverty line, and a population that exists mainly on junk food. There, the rise in average height that marked its progress as a nation through the 19th and 20th centuries has stopped and has actually reversed - albeit very slightly - in recent years. Many Americans are rich and do well anatomically as a result, but there is a large underclass that is starting to drag the country down the stature charts.

This discovery, which has been revealed through research that Komlos has assembled over decades, amounts to an assault on the values of the free market economy espoused by Americans and provides powerful support for those who back European ideas about universal healthcare.

Fluctuations in human stature are not new and have occurred regularly throughout history. Our early hunter-gatherer ancestors were tall and lean. Later, as farming spread across the world, dense populations learnt to live on only a few standard crops and suffered considerable nutritional neglect. The result was a decline in stature.

Similarly, climatic changes have had a profound effect on human height - a physical attribute that is now regarded by historians, scientists and economists as a key indicator of the health of any group of people living at any particular time and place. For example, during the Little Ice Age, in which temperatures plummeted across the world between 1300 and the mid-19th century, there was a noticeable decrease in human stature.

'There are two possible mechanisms for this observation,' said Professor Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum. 'Firstly, all mammals get shorter and rounder when climates cool. It is a physiological response to cold. Short, round bodies preserve heat better than tall cool ones.

'However, there is an alternative explanation for shrinking stature in bad weather. It means poor crops, and that in turn means malnutrition and, of course, the consequence of that is poor stature.

'Those tiny suits of armour that you see when you visit the Tower of London were worn by people who were badly nourished. During winter they would have only salt meat and a few vegetables to live on. That's not going to help you grow very well.'

Modern society now protects humans from such problems, though in recent years it has become clear that political factors are having some effect on nutrition levels and proper diet and therefore stature. And it is in this arena that Komlos has made his key discoveries.

Through painstaking investigations he has calculated the heights of men at different times over our recent historical past. This shows that, around 1850, Americans - blessed with Western technology that allowed its citizens to spread unstoppably across the United States - lived relatively fine lives that let its menfolk reach an average height of 5ft 9in. By contrast, Dutchmen were only able to reach about 5ft 7in.

By the early 20th century the average American man was still about the same height as his predecessor. But the average Dutchman had nearly caught up and was only about half an inch shorter.

But in the 20th century Americans were overtaken. The average US male is now about 5ft 10in. The average Dutchman is just over 6ft.

More importantly, the latter is continuing his rise in average height. The Americans have long since stopped growing and, according to some measures, may actually be getting smaller. 'In relative terms, Americans are certainly shrinking in comparison with Europeans,' says Komlos.

One possible explanation lies with immigration. As more Mexicans and Chinese enter the US, these individuals may lower the average height, it is argued. But statisticians dismiss this suggestion. During the 19th century the country took in millions of malnourished, and therefore small, people. Yet Americans remained the tallest people in the world at that time.

In fact, the very idea that various peoples are programmed, on average, to be short or tall is thrown into doubt by Komlos's work. Apart from a few rare races, such as African pygmies who are genetically programmed to have low stature, virtually everyone in the world has the potential to reach the same average height as the Dutch, and that includes the Mexicans, Chinese, Inuit, and other peoples who are not usually noted for their stature.

To achieve that status will require some arduous social engineering. The Dutch health service, with its magnificent support services for pregnant woman (quality of life in the womb is a key factor in determining future health and height) and its high-protein diets based on dairy food, will not be easy to emulate in a world whose population is now soaring towards seven billion.

Growth Spurt

The steady increase in the height of British youngsters which began over a century ago continues to manifest itself today, particularly among girls.

According to figures provided by the Child Growth Foundation, the height of the average British nine-year-old girl rose from 4ft 4in (130.6cm) in 1983 to 4ft 5in (132.7cm) in 2003, while the average British nine-year-old boy increased from 4ft 4in to just under 4ft 5in.

'It would appear that girls are doing slightly better than boys, but that may simply be due to the fact that girls are reaching puberty earlier and earlier, and are beginning their adolescent growth spurt before boys,' said Tam Fry, of the foundation.

The increase is also roughly in line with the general trend observed over the past 100 years that the average child is increasing in height at a rate of between four and five inches a century.
 

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Its interesting, but I'm not so sure how accurate it is.

The Dutch have always been exceptionally tall, and look obscenely healthy and clean compared to most of europe.
Even back in the 80's I was taken aback by that place. Its sooooo clean and its locals are big square jawed germanic looking people.
(They look like Aryan picture postcard dudes from the old Hitler propaganda)

The UK looks like a grotty little hovel filled with grotty little people compared to them.

If you take the Dutch out of the equation it will probaly make quite a difference.

Croatia also had some areas with huge medium build (well over 6 feet) macho dudes.
I'm 5'10 and I felt like a midget in Croatia.
I didn't feel like a midget in Holland tho.
 

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One thing I find amusing is

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> On the other hand, America has eight million people with no job, 40 million individuals with no health insurance, 35 million living below the poverty line, and a population that exists mainly on junk food. There, the rise in average height that marked its progress as a nation through the 19th and 20th centuries has stopped and has actually reversed - albeit very slightly - in recent years. Many Americans are rich and do well anatomically as a result, but there is a large underclass that is starting to drag the country down the stature charts.

This discovery, which has been revealed through research that Komlos has assembled over decades, amounts to an assault on the values of the free market economy espoused by Americans and provides powerful support for those who back European ideas about universal healthcare. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's one thing to favor your bias in your study but to politically base your theories on a hunch that is not shared by everyone is absurd. For the record, I grew up on junk food as did my entire family before them when they were children. I'm 6'2" and my brother is over 6' as well as my father and his father before him. To say that genetics has little to do with it is bold to say the least.

This guy sounds stoned. I never knew of a German researcher who used inches instead of centimeters.
 

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I'm still trying to figure out why they used an American system of measure for a UK intended audience.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'm still trying to figure out why they used an American system of measure for a UK intended audience <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Although there have been numerous European directives to make member staste countries use metric systems, Britain stubbornly still uses a bit of imperial (not to forget they invented it). Miles are used in roads here. Famous European Court of Justice case (directed to a British man) a few years ago called Simmerthal (recommend you look it up) concerning a shoopkeeper who refused to measure his goods in kilos and grams instead of pounds and was being fined. Well, he lost.
 

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The older generation, of which I am rapidly becoming, still communicate in Imperial units, and it rubs off onto the youngsters.

The official state units, are mainly metric,
Kilos for food, litres for petrol, although MPH and miles are still used for vehicles and road distance. (Petrol is still compared by the gallon when discussion of price is concerned.)

Height is still feet/inches from a cultural viewpoint.(metres/centimetres are official only)

Money is 100 pennies to the £.
(The 240 pennies to the £ was the easiest to lose by the newer generations.)

One of the biggest pains in the backside is getting an imperial toolset/spanner or socketset to use on old nuts + bolts.
They're all metric now.
 

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I thought I remembered something like that. We have that here in the U.S., too. You buy a quart of milk or juice but a liter of soda. Half the stuff on your vehicle is metric and the other half standard.
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I lived overseas for a few years and when I returned I visited some relatives in the Midwest. They offered to make me a home-cooked meal which I accepted. They chose chili but didn't have anything thawed so I went to the supermarket for supplies. I walked up to the meat counter and asked for 2 kilos of their leanest ground beef. He gave me a funny look and I thought he might only have one choice so I told him that I would take whatever he had and he was like, "2 kilos?" I ended up guesstimating 3.75lb to be 2 kilos. I was so embarrassed. I think it's closer to 4.5lb anyway. My cousin still brings that up to this day.
 

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interesting. just because the average is smaller doesnt mean we're not still producing the more qaulity humans
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Handy ditties for us old duffers:

A metre measures three foot three, its longer than a yard you see.

Two and a quarter pounds of jam, weigh about a kilogramme.(actually 2.2 lbs)

A litre of waters' a pint and three quarters.
 

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So if I visit and I'm flirting with a lassie, I still exaggerate the length of Little Barman in 'inches', right?

Just want to be prepared, of course

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hey barman . . . here's another useful tip that has worked wonders for me . . . i never worry about the measurement system, i just take my measurement from a**hole to tip and always seem to end up with an impressive number.
 

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Funny article.

Simpler, more reasonable explanation:

Shorter cultures populating the USA at a faster rate than taller cultures, i.e. Hispanics and to a lesser extent Asians. At the risk of sounding racist, they are shorter than white or black people.

The author's conclusions came out of nowhere and have no merit.

In short, its just a political article with little scientific value.
 

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UM: I'm 5'8", weigh 130 lbs and my condo is 740 sq ft. The speed limit on the highway is 100 km/h and my favourite yoghurt comes in a 500 ml container.

Anyone ever notice that the height of a man is directly proportionate with his marital status and age? For example, a man in his 30s who has never been married is four times more likely than his married or younger counterpart to be under 5'7" ... and to subsequently hit on me. I have no scientific studies to back this finding; you'll just have to take my word for it.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Angus Ontario:
i never worry about the measurement system, i just take my measurement from a**hole to tip and always seem to end up with an impressive number.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You're moving back to Ontario when you graduate, right??
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xpanda:
You're moving back to Ontario when you graduate, right??<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure will, and I'd appreciate it if you didn't start revealing my less-than-honest measurement technique to the beautiful women of Hamilton . . . I prefer that they discover the truth under more (ahem) intimate circumstances . . .
 

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