I think he just got pissed about barman's merger action
seems like he's still lurking
although maybe "they" got to him. You know how truthers have a short life span, eh?
stick around y'kook, the Rx will miss ya
seems like he's still lurking
although maybe "they" got to him. You know how truthers have a short life span, eh?
stick around y'kook, the Rx will miss ya
I want a straight answer from upstairs. I dont trust Barmans answer before he says it. All I know is I think Loren is banned because the private messsages are disallowed - presumibly because no one is there anymore.
Sounds like no one wants to own up to whatever verbal sparring went on that led to this. Come on - make up the usual high and mighty raison de etre like you are supposed to do.
He didnt decide to just stop posting.
Someone wants you to believe that.
Loren had confided to me in private correspondence of THEIR wish to get rid of him. Not for the usual reasons swearing insults anti-semitism- gay bashing wishing loved ones unwell etc.
He was banned because he posted the truth mostly- and the truth goes over in here like a lead ballon- like another bailout plan for the banks.
Im not suprised at this series of unfortunate events- which began by the contant meddlesome antics of BM - someone who cannot moderate because he prefers to irritate.
This place stinks of censorship. ~~:<<
"The following errors occurred with your submission:
Loren78 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."
Sounds like no one wants to own up to whatever verbal sparring went on that led to this. Come on - make up the usual high and mighty raison de etre like you are supposed to do.
He didnt decide to just stop posting.
Someone wants you to believe that.
Loren had confided to me in private correspondence of THEIR wish to get rid of him. Not for the usual reasons swearing insults anti-semitism- gay bashing wishing loved ones unwell etc.
He was banned because he posted the truth mostly- and the truth goes over in here like a lead ballon- like another bailout plan for the banks.
Im not suprised at this series of unfortunate events- which began by the contant meddlesome antics of BM - someone who cannot moderate because he prefers to irritate.
This place stinks of censorship. ~~:<<
"The following errors occurred with your submission:
Loren78 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."
TR overall I think the mods do a pretty good job here.
You claim "Loren was banned because he posted the truth mostly- and the truth."
I'm not even going to get into how ludicrous that statement is about Loren's kookery representing "THE TRUTH."
Let's assume for argument's sake everything Loren posted was factual, OK? Guess what? HE STILL DESERVED TO BE BANNED!
Loren was cutting and pasting articles about the same topics, but for each one starting a new thread. Factual or not, "9/11 Smells," "9/11 Blows," and "9/11 Stinks," should all be posted in the same thread, but because Loren craves attention he could not help clicking the 'New Thread' button.
Loren was asked kindly to keep similar posts in the same thread and he ignored it. Finally, as he has done before with other posters Barman merged Loren's similar threads into a single topic. Loren responded by throwing a tantrum, demanded to be banned and his request was granted. Sorry, no conspiracy here either.......
You claim "Loren was banned because he posted the truth mostly- and the truth."
I'm not even going to get into how ludicrous that statement is about Loren's kookery representing "THE TRUTH."
Let's assume for argument's sake everything Loren posted was factual, OK? Guess what? HE STILL DESERVED TO BE BANNED!
Loren was cutting and pasting articles about the same topics, but for each one starting a new thread. Factual or not, "9/11 Smells," "9/11 Blows," and "9/11 Stinks," should all be posted in the same thread, but because Loren craves attention he could not help clicking the 'New Thread' button.
Loren was asked kindly to keep similar posts in the same thread and he ignored it. Finally, as he has done before with other posters Barman merged Loren's similar threads into a single topic. Loren responded by throwing a tantrum, demanded to be banned and his request was granted. Sorry, no conspiracy here either.......
This is a very fair summation of how the events unfolded between Loren and Head Mod Wilheim when Loren complained about the merging of four same-topic threads.
He "demanded" they be reverted or else the RxMods were "Agents of Thought Control", "fascists".
Further, when told by Wil we would not reverse the Merge, Loren advised he would be creating even MORE threads and raising hell.
In short, he was politely asked to go and find one of the literally THOUSANDS of other web forums which are dedicated to discussing the topics which he purports to be of high importance.
At the end of the day, this small fraternal forum here is simply a cyber "break room" down the hall from the Sports Handicapping forums which constitute 98% of the RxForum mission as promoted to our paying sponsors.
If Rx members enjoy trading ideas and some banter about political topics and World Events, this is a fair place to engage. But for those with some kind of serious intent to "Deliver A Very Important Message!!!", it's likely best done on some other website which actively solicits such content.
OK OK OK maybe he said some things. But that is usually followed by a week or two to cool off. Isnt the fact that you do not mention when he is coming back proof that the intent is to permanently remove him?
Has he even been banned at all before this?
Isnt a permanent ban for someone who has been banned multiple times as in the Mercer affair?
You are cracking out of turn with all this BS and its obvious.
Come up with a better reason than he started saying he'd post more. What do you expect him to say? Is it an RX crime to create threads that arent banter?
So you just want a dumbed down political forum?
LOL- admit he was censored for his views- too controversial for your watered down version of reality.
The truth cannot be filtered by you or anyone else that has no right to impose a list of what can or cannot be talked about.
Otherwise you have commited the crime of censorship- par for the course in a winding down country that is at war with itself because half of you want the lies to never be questioned and the other half will never let you forget them.
Loren was part of the latter. The only way to silence him was to ban him for good. In doing so you exhibit your own weakness.
Thats how we win. He proved his point on everything he ever posted.
There is left the distinct impression that you are losing control of the lie machine that controls this country from sea to shining sea.
For that I am grateful to Loren. He went down fighting the forces of darkness wherever they exist.
Even in a joint like this.
Kook Of The Year- RIP :toast:
Has he even been banned at all before this?
Isnt a permanent ban for someone who has been banned multiple times as in the Mercer affair?
You are cracking out of turn with all this BS and its obvious.
Come up with a better reason than he started saying he'd post more. What do you expect him to say? Is it an RX crime to create threads that arent banter?
So you just want a dumbed down political forum?
LOL- admit he was censored for his views- too controversial for your watered down version of reality.
The truth cannot be filtered by you or anyone else that has no right to impose a list of what can or cannot be talked about.
Otherwise you have commited the crime of censorship- par for the course in a winding down country that is at war with itself because half of you want the lies to never be questioned and the other half will never let you forget them.
Loren was part of the latter. The only way to silence him was to ban him for good. In doing so you exhibit your own weakness.
Thats how we win. He proved his point on everything he ever posted.
There is left the distinct impression that you are losing control of the lie machine that controls this country from sea to shining sea.
For that I am grateful to Loren. He went down fighting the forces of darkness wherever they exist.
Even in a joint like this.
Kook Of The Year- RIP :toast:
TR, if anyone at the RxMod team was interested in "censoring" Kook topics, you would be the first person given a permanent Ban.
Your very existence here (well at least for the next eight days until all American currency is replaced by the mythical Amero and the subsequent food riots and FEMA camp deportations start up) is all the proof anyone should need if wondering whether a free exchange of ideas is permitted within the RxPoliticoPub
Your very existence here (well at least for the next eight days until all American currency is replaced by the mythical Amero and the subsequent food riots and FEMA camp deportations start up) is all the proof anyone should need if wondering whether a free exchange of ideas is permitted within the RxPoliticoPub
<TABLE style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px" class=tborder border=0 cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center><TBODY><TR title="Post 6775901" vAlign=top><TD class=alt2 width=125 align=middle>barman</TD><TD class=alt1>Quote:
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Loren was asked kindly to keep similar posts in the same thread and he ignored it. Finally, as he has done before with other posters Barman merged Loren's similar threads into a single topic. Loren responded by throwing a tantrum, demanded to be banned and his request was granted. Sorry, no conspiracy here either.......
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This is a very fair summation of how the events unfolded between Loren and Head Mod Wilheim when Loren complained about the merging of four same-topic threads.
He "demanded" they be reverted or else the RxMods were "Agents of Thought Control", "fascists".
Further, when told by Wil we would not reverse the Merge, Loren advised he would be creating even MORE threads and raising hell.
In short, he was politely asked to go and find one of the literally THOUSANDS of other web forums which are dedicated to discussing the topics which he purports to be of high importance.
At the end of the day, this small fraternal forum here is simply a cyber "break room" down the hall from the Sports Handicapping forums which constitute 98% of the RxForum mission as promoted to our paying sponsors.
If Rx members enjoy trading ideas and some banter about political topics and World Events, this is a fair place to engage. But for those with some kind of serious intent to "Deliver A Very Important Message!!!", it's likely best done on some other website which actively solicits such content. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
UPDATE-
I have delibrately held back on this topic until I knew all the facts.
Here they are:
Barman is a liar and I will prove it because- unfortunately for him Loren got word to me through a go-between who shall remain nameless.
The reason Barman pretended not to know Loren was banned when I originally asked is because it was his doing- not Wilheilm's. Thats right! Thats why you have heard nothing from him...Wilheilm never banned Loren for anything!!!
Barman has clearly gome beyond his given powers to harass and torment a poster with 1001 things a control freak would do if given the chance.
This is Also why Rob hasnt said a word either Ill surmise.
Loren NEVER demanded to be banned.
Barman chopped up his posts on a number of divergent topics that cannot be merged without an audacity that would infuriate anyone yet Loren saud nothing.
Its fair to say that everyone here knows that Loren does not resort to demanding anything or name calling. This is in reference to Barmans ludicrous claim that Loren resorted to "demands" that the threads be reverted or else the RxMods were "Agents of Thought Control", "fascists". (Just you Barman)
In point of fact- Loren told Will that he had no problem with the merging of his threads. His one little complaint was that Barman had changed the TITLE of his thread. This is not the right of a Mod in Lorens opinion and mine and and clearly merits Lorens charge of thought control. .
If Barman "thinks" he has a better thread title than any of Lorens he could use thats good but he has no right to impose it. Title you own threads. Merge all you want but allow a poster's original thread title you have merged into to remain his intellectual property- not yours.
So- bottom line truthtime- Barman banned Loren for "going over his head"- which is difficult to imagine because of its sheer size of Barmans head today- try imaging the Good Year Blimp for comparison....
Yes- the ugly thruth is Wilheilm did not ban Loren- was not even aware that he was banned by Barman until the 22nd after he had been banned for an entire week!
Loren logged in on the 15th and received this message:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Undeserable poster
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Tell me RX'ers is this is how Wilheilm would have handled it?
Or is it instead the evil machinations of Barmans patently sadistic fingers?
You be the judge....
<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset" class=alt2>Originally Posted by Scott L
Loren was asked kindly to keep similar posts in the same thread and he ignored it. Finally, as he has done before with other posters Barman merged Loren's similar threads into a single topic. Loren responded by throwing a tantrum, demanded to be banned and his request was granted. Sorry, no conspiracy here either.......
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This is a very fair summation of how the events unfolded between Loren and Head Mod Wilheim when Loren complained about the merging of four same-topic threads.
He "demanded" they be reverted or else the RxMods were "Agents of Thought Control", "fascists".
Further, when told by Wil we would not reverse the Merge, Loren advised he would be creating even MORE threads and raising hell.
In short, he was politely asked to go and find one of the literally THOUSANDS of other web forums which are dedicated to discussing the topics which he purports to be of high importance.
At the end of the day, this small fraternal forum here is simply a cyber "break room" down the hall from the Sports Handicapping forums which constitute 98% of the RxForum mission as promoted to our paying sponsors.
If Rx members enjoy trading ideas and some banter about political topics and World Events, this is a fair place to engage. But for those with some kind of serious intent to "Deliver A Very Important Message!!!", it's likely best done on some other website which actively solicits such content. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
UPDATE-
I have delibrately held back on this topic until I knew all the facts.
Here they are:
Barman is a liar and I will prove it because- unfortunately for him Loren got word to me through a go-between who shall remain nameless.
The reason Barman pretended not to know Loren was banned when I originally asked is because it was his doing- not Wilheilm's. Thats right! Thats why you have heard nothing from him...Wilheilm never banned Loren for anything!!!
Barman has clearly gome beyond his given powers to harass and torment a poster with 1001 things a control freak would do if given the chance.
This is Also why Rob hasnt said a word either Ill surmise.
Loren NEVER demanded to be banned.
Barman chopped up his posts on a number of divergent topics that cannot be merged without an audacity that would infuriate anyone yet Loren saud nothing.
Its fair to say that everyone here knows that Loren does not resort to demanding anything or name calling. This is in reference to Barmans ludicrous claim that Loren resorted to "demands" that the threads be reverted or else the RxMods were "Agents of Thought Control", "fascists". (Just you Barman)
In point of fact- Loren told Will that he had no problem with the merging of his threads. His one little complaint was that Barman had changed the TITLE of his thread. This is not the right of a Mod in Lorens opinion and mine and and clearly merits Lorens charge of thought control. .
If Barman "thinks" he has a better thread title than any of Lorens he could use thats good but he has no right to impose it. Title you own threads. Merge all you want but allow a poster's original thread title you have merged into to remain his intellectual property- not yours.
So- bottom line truthtime- Barman banned Loren for "going over his head"- which is difficult to imagine because of its sheer size of Barmans head today- try imaging the Good Year Blimp for comparison....
Yes- the ugly thruth is Wilheilm did not ban Loren- was not even aware that he was banned by Barman until the 22nd after he had been banned for an entire week!
Loren logged in on the 15th and received this message:
You have been banned for the following reason:
Undeserable poster
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Tell me RX'ers is this is how Wilheilm would have handled it?
Or is it instead the evil machinations of Barmans patently sadistic fingers?
You be the judge....
management, let Loren post. From his posts, he didn't appear to say anything that warrants a permanent banning, and he does participate in sports handicapping too.
Obviously, I don't know what was said (or not) in private communications.
Is it your desire to weed out the political forum?
Obviously, I don't know what was said (or not) in private communications.
Is it your desire to weed out the political forum?
TR goes off the reservation with: UPDATE-
I have delibrately held back on this topic until I knew all the facts.
Here they are:
Barman is a liar and I will prove it
Bar: You are a fool, and I don't even need to prove it
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TR: because- unfortunately for him Loren got word to me through a go-between who shall remain nameless.
The reason Barman pretended not to know Loren was banned when I originally asked is because it was his doing- not Wilheilm's. Thats right! Thats why you have heard nothing from him...Wilheilm never banned Loren for anything!!!
Bar: Anyone who wishes to drop Wil a PM can confirm that it was he - WIL - who banned Loren a couple weeks ago.
I'm currently out of town and logging in via the miracle of a FedEx Office outlet so am pressed for time.
The last I heard on this silly topic was Wil's PM to me this past Wednesday telling me that Loren was emailing and "begging to be unbanned". I told Wil I had no complaints provided Loren desisted from further abusive comments about me or any other Rx Moderator.
I have not heard further on this topic, but as noted above, I've been out of my regular office since Thursday.
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TR: Barman chopped up his posts on a number of divergent topics that cannot be merged without an audacity that would infuriate anyone yet Loren saud nothing.
Bar: I have never edited a single word of any post made by Loren. His irrational outburst a couple weeks back (via PM to Wilheim) was solely in response to my having merged four threads he created within 48 hours dealing with 9/11-related "news'.
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TR: Yes- the ugly thruth is Wilheilm did not ban Loren-
Bar: Asked and Answered above.
Now while I will not edit or alter any of TR's insane and ludicrous offerings in this here Thread, I am giving it the boot to the RR as it has absolutelynothing to do with Politics, World Events or Financial topics
Back in office next couple days. Cheers to the PolticoPub at large
I have delibrately held back on this topic until I knew all the facts.
Here they are:
Barman is a liar and I will prove it
Bar: You are a fool, and I don't even need to prove it
==
TR: because- unfortunately for him Loren got word to me through a go-between who shall remain nameless.
The reason Barman pretended not to know Loren was banned when I originally asked is because it was his doing- not Wilheilm's. Thats right! Thats why you have heard nothing from him...Wilheilm never banned Loren for anything!!!
Bar: Anyone who wishes to drop Wil a PM can confirm that it was he - WIL - who banned Loren a couple weeks ago.
I'm currently out of town and logging in via the miracle of a FedEx Office outlet so am pressed for time.
The last I heard on this silly topic was Wil's PM to me this past Wednesday telling me that Loren was emailing and "begging to be unbanned". I told Wil I had no complaints provided Loren desisted from further abusive comments about me or any other Rx Moderator.
I have not heard further on this topic, but as noted above, I've been out of my regular office since Thursday.
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TR: Barman chopped up his posts on a number of divergent topics that cannot be merged without an audacity that would infuriate anyone yet Loren saud nothing.
Bar: I have never edited a single word of any post made by Loren. His irrational outburst a couple weeks back (via PM to Wilheim) was solely in response to my having merged four threads he created within 48 hours dealing with 9/11-related "news'.
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TR: Yes- the ugly thruth is Wilheilm did not ban Loren-
Bar: Asked and Answered above.
Now while I will not edit or alter any of TR's insane and ludicrous offerings in this here Thread, I am giving it the boot to the RR as it has absolutelynothing to do with Politics, World Events or Financial topics
Back in office next couple days. Cheers to the PolticoPub at large
W, allow me to reset and state that Loren's ban was initiated solely because he was sending abusive-tinted complaints to Wil.
Neither Wil nor I nor any RxMod has any interest in 'weeding out' posters.
However, we also have no interest in people who make our jobs difficult, which is what Loren was doing when Wil dropped the hammer.
As noted in my last post above, last I heard Loren was emailing Wil and begging to be reinstated. I do not know what has transpired since.
