Anti-liberal said:
Maybe you could wait a day or two to lecture the forum about tax evasion? I'm sure a lot of people are shitting their pants right now. Let's try to remember that every last one of us on this forum is a criminal according to your gov't, and save the lectures for a less hyprocritical moment.
K?
Anti-liberal said:
It was signed by both b/c no one had a choice as it was snuck into the Port Security Bill in the middle of the night (slime balls).
Guys, please, can we stop the political BS? The time for that was last year when this bill was passed. We need to be giving each other advice and be working together right now to figure things out.
Xpanda...it's a forum, and I'm going to say what I want, ok? My "lecture" was a response to someone's post...someone who wanted to discuss why they would divert resources to this case instead of homeland security.
Anyways...off to my massage. I'm going to try to forget this shit for 75 minutes. Enjoy....
Anyways...off to my massage. I'm going to try to forget this shit for 75 minutes. Enjoy....
dr03 said:
I agree with the thinking players are ok. I doubt the government is going to go after a couple million people.
But what the sportsbooks report doesn't matter...the feds will get all of your info from Neteller. It is those transactions that would be the concern if you were worried the government would come after you (unless you were reporting every Neteller transaction).
who says the government will get access to neteller records. gov got access to BOS records when that ship went down and what came of that, nothing. they couldve got all the info they wanted on people from there. im telling you guys i'm personally not worried about anything, just sad that neteller might be gone soon.
First off, you would have to be a multi million dollar bettor for the government to do anything even if they had neteller's records... The government is not coming after every tom dick and harry. The government does not work like that. There are over 2000 online casinos and sportsbooks. The government has gone after WSEX, WTTS, Pinnacle, BOS, Neteller. They have not gone after JOe's book and they are definitely not going after Joe bettor.
Second, neteller has no reason to give the government any type of records. What is the government gonna do? Say, give us your records and then keep on sending money to the gambling sites...
In order for the UK to turn over banking records, the government must show reasonable cause of money laundering to support criminal activity. The UK and the rest of the world does not consider gambling as criminal activity. It is very very unlikely any banking records will be turned over.
What will most likely happen is neteller will volunteerily leave the US market and that is the end of it.
The government (ANd who ever is putting hundreds of millions behind this) are out to stop online gambling, not to waste money.
Sean
Second, neteller has no reason to give the government any type of records. What is the government gonna do? Say, give us your records and then keep on sending money to the gambling sites...
In order for the UK to turn over banking records, the government must show reasonable cause of money laundering to support criminal activity. The UK and the rest of the world does not consider gambling as criminal activity. It is very very unlikely any banking records will be turned over.
What will most likely happen is neteller will volunteerily leave the US market and that is the end of it.
The government (ANd who ever is putting hundreds of millions behind this) are out to stop online gambling, not to waste money.
Sean
dr03 said:
Worst case scenario from this IMO is that Neteller goes away as an option for US players which we all expected was a strong probability at some point anyway. I'm more pissed off about the socio-political implications for our increasingly less free country than anything else (though I'm pissed off in a bi-partisan manner)....
Anyone disagree with Pinny's abrupt decision now? They knew exactly what was coming and as usual, were a step ahead. This is just the tip of the iceberg. It reminds me of the old d*tv days, only on a much lager scale. The battle cry was, "they can never stop us", until they did. Everyone be very careful.
