Ace vs. Vittard boxing match in Pennsylvania, how much would you pay for live feed?

[PatsFan1283]

If you think shittard is a millionaire you need your head examined. It isn’t at all believable or true. Let me explain (and remember, I’m a “banker”)

#1. He claims to have won “more than a million” playing poker in his 30’s. Any gambling winnings are taxable at the federal and state level
#2 After winning this million he said he paid off his debts (against the advice of his financial advisor)
#3 After winning this million, paying the taxes (at least 28%) and paying off debt he then increased his net worth to more than $2 million with his “financial moves”

Per those facts above, he would have had to take approximately $500,000 and turned it into greater than $2 million with his savvy investments. The odds of doing that are below .001%. I know my financial advisor can’t do that and there are people who make their living making money off of money who aren’t capable of such things.

It is not possible that he won a large sum of money, paid of the debts and more than tripled it and never has to work again. The math doesn’t work. I’d add, he also is the only poker millionaire in the history of the world who won all this money playing poker then quit. Additionally, it is a total coincidence that he is such a good (or lucky) poker player, has to never worry about money again, yet won’t play in a $300 RX poker tournament. The place he hangs out at all day every day. I’m sure this is just some random bad fact that reflects poorly on shittard. Note that posters have been pointing out that he doesn’t play at RX tournaments for almost 3 years now. This rich millionaire who doesn’t have to work and only has to risk $300 responds with “people cheat online!” as if that mitigates this at all.

Further, the idea that he is married is just as preposterous. I don’t know any married man who would be able to post on this site (he’s been posting non-stop since 11am today) so much yet have his wife ignore it. Keep in mind he’s claimed that his wife is a teacher and since she is a teacher school is out for summer break. I guess he just can’t put the computer down and posting non-stop while she sits there telling him how in-shape, rich and tough he is. Another fact here is that he spent most of Saturday on this site and 2 weekends in a row was posting from after 9pm until after midnight (and he dutifully logged back in here yesterday morning just past 8am after making his last post at 12:19am). Which I’m sure is just another example of this exciting millionaire life he leads with his wife.

Just as he isn’t a millionaire (he will net worth bet you in a second, pal!) and isn’t married, he isn’t tough, he doesn’t have season tickets and he isn’t the age he is claiming to be. It is all a lie, every bit of it. And anyone with a brain can see he is just a dumb little boy troll telling tale tales on the Internet (the same as another poster he follows around all day).

It isn't like he even says he is that good at poker. All he said was he luckboxed a few big tourney's, that really isn't very far fetched.

Other than being extremely lucky, it isn't even really all that impressive. He isn't really saying he made $ by being skillful or savvy. Just that he went on an incredible hot streak and now he is set.

Maybe he won like 1.2ish around 08-09 and invested at the nadir of the market circa early '09 and now has close to 2 (also maybe he had some $ before the poker $, etc)

Would that be extremely fortunate timing wise? Yeah but it does happen.

Also him quitting poker after the big scores is perfectly reasonable because again, he never said he was that good.

 

[Acebb]

Pats,
lets look at the logic of his alleged poker run.

He says he isn't good at poker and got lucky. Ok. Well, for arguments sake lets assume he got into 1 tournament and won $30,000. This would be a big win for someone who isn't good at it. Knowing this is a complete aberration, why would you risk all of your winnings and keep playing? Not only would have have to do this (when it gets to $300,000 or so you would quit and so would he) you would have to do it 8 times in a row.

As to the matter of his investing, he said he "lived in debt for years" and he "lived paycheck to paycheck" yet followed up a highly improbable (it may not be impressive but it is highly unlikely) poker run by putting himself in the top echelon of investors. Keep in mind it is not hard to be married and not live in debt and as I said, you have people who do this for a living who do not triple their money in the market. Let alone people who live paycheck to paycheck and have debt.

Further, he also said he paid off his debt, but now wants to make a net worth bet where he brings his liabilities. He also didn't understand that if you had say $500,000 in cash it would be completely stupid to live off it rather than investing it. He said he put "all of his wife's paychecks in the bank" and they are "not touched" which would be monumentally dumb since you would be better off investing the $500K and living off the wife's paychecks. I tried to explain this principle to him and he did not understand it. Which shows he is just throwing shit on the wall.

 

[MantisToboggan]

If you think shittard is a millionaire you need your head examined. It isn’t at all believable or true. Let me explain (and remember, I’m a “banker”)

#1. He claims to have won “more than a million” playing poker in his 30’s. Any gambling winnings are taxable at the federal and state level
#2 After winning this million he said he paid off his debts (against the advice of his financial advisor)
#3 After winning this million, paying the taxes (at least 28%) and paying off debt he then increased his net worth to more than $2 million with his “financial moves”

Per those facts above, he would have had to take approximately $500,000 and turned it into greater than $2 million with his savvy investments. The odds of doing that are below .001%. I know my financial advisor can’t do that and there are people who make their living making money off of money who aren’t capable of such things.

It is not possible that he won a large sum of money, paid of the debts and more than tripled it and never has to work again. The math doesn’t work. I’d add, he also is the only poker millionaire in the history of the world who won all this money playing poker then quit. Additionally, it is a total coincidence that he is such a good (or lucky) poker player, has to never worry about money again, yet won’t play in a $300 RX poker tournament. The place he hangs out at all day every day. I’m sure this is just some random bad fact that reflects poorly on shittard. Note that posters have been pointing out that he doesn’t play at RX tournaments for almost 3 years now. This rich millionaire who doesn’t have to work and only has to risk $300 responds with “people cheat online!” as if that mitigates this at all.

Further, the idea that he is married is just as preposterous. I don’t know any married man who would be able to post on this site (he’s been posting non-stop since 11am today) so much yet have his wife ignore it. Keep in mind he’s claimed that his wife is a teacher and since she is a teacher school is out for summer break. I guess he just can’t put the computer down and posting non-stop while she sits there telling him how in-shape, rich and tough he is. Another fact here is that he spent most of Saturday on this site and 2 weekends in a row was posting from after 9pm until after midnight (and he dutifully logged back in here yesterday morning just past 8am after making his last post at 12:19am). Which I’m sure is just another example of this exciting millionaire life he leads with his wife.

Just as he isn’t a millionaire (he will net worth bet you in a second, pal!) and isn’t married, he isn’t tough, he doesn’t have season tickets and he isn’t the age he is claiming to be. It is all a lie, every bit of it. And anyone with a brain can see he is just a dumb little boy troll telling tale tales on the Internet (the same as another poster he follows around all day).

I understand your doubts but my opinion is that he is not lying about being independently wealthy. I am not as confident that he acquired his money by playing poker. Either way, doesn't really matter to me. Guy could be worth 10 cents or 10 million and it isn't changing my life at all. As far as being married, it's possible that his wife doesn't care if he spends time on therx. Maybe she's got her own hobbies and what not. I don't have a reason not to believe him.

 

[PatsFan1283]

7-800ish to 2M since '09 is about what basic indexing in the market has yielded. This doesn't account for the crash that preceded that, but maybe he just got the timing right. So while the poker run might be highly improbable, we can easily see the investing success could've just been great timing.

I wouldn't bet $ on it but I can see how it comes together.

As far as his wife, Nerlens Noel is probably keeping her plenty satisfied that he can be on the internet alllllll night lonngggggg

 

[ScottL]

After the first post I was ready to pony up $39.95. Now I'm hardly interested. Besides, Mod Murph will hack the link anyway.

I seriously don't know where these guys find the energy to continue arguing about nothing.

 

[mplastered]

After the first post I was ready to pony up $39.95. Now I'm hardly interested. Besides, Mod Murph will hack the link anyway.

I seriously don't know where these guys find the energy to continue arguing about nothing.

Ha, are you serious? Hatred is rampant and on fire here as usual .

 

[Acebb]

7-800ish to 2M since '09 is about what basic indexing in the market has yielded. This doesn't account for the crash that preceded that, but maybe he just got the timing right. So while the poker run might be highly improbable, we can easily see the investing success could've just been great timing.

I wouldn't bet $ on it but I can see how it comes together.

As far as his wife, Nerlens Noel is probably keeping her plenty satisfied that he can be on the internet alllllll night lonngggggg

If he invested $600,000 and did 20% for 3 years in a row, something that is beyond market for the period, he would have $960,000

Keep in mind he was saying he did not have to worry about $ in 2012 so you can't talk about up until now and it would be likely he experienced the crash.

 

[PatsFan1283]

If he invested $600,000 and did 20% for 3 years in a row, something that is beyond market for the period, he would have $960,000

Keep in mind he was saying he did not have to worry about $ in 2012 so you can't talk about up until now and it would be likely he experienced the crash.

That is a good point. So his investing would've had to come from more active investments such as businesses or real estate rather than just 1 click passive market investing. Also, if he were to draw on the $, he wouldn't be getting all the benefits of compounding during this period of superior returns.

Maybe he let it ride on a 3 team parlay? I dunno. Beats me.

 

[Seymour]

Is AK banned again? why isnt he in here sucking on his boys cock? that's not right Vit - u give him head all the time

Vit is soft - Acceb early rounds by strikes

 

[vitterd]

Pats,
lets look at the logic of his alleged poker run.

He says he isn't good at poker and got lucky. Ok. Well, for arguments sake lets assume he got into 1 tournament and won $30,000. This would be a big win for someone who isn't good at it. Knowing this is a complete aberration, why would you risk all of your winnings and keep playing? Not only would have have to do this (when it gets to $300,000 or so you would quit and so would he) you would have to do it 8 times in a row.

As to the matter of his investing, he said he "lived in debt for years" and he "lived paycheck to paycheck" yet followed up a highly improbable (it may not be impressive but it is highly unlikely) poker run by putting himself in the top echelon of investors. Keep in mind it is not hard to be married and not live in debt and as I said, you have people who do this for a living who do not triple their money in the market. Let alone people who live paycheck to paycheck and have debt.

Further, he also said he paid off his debt, but now wants to make a net worth bet where he brings his liabilities. He also didn't understand that if you had say $500,000 in cash it would be completely stupid to live off it rather than investing it. He said he put "all of his wife's paychecks in the bank" and they are "not touched" which would be monumentally dumb since you would be better off investing the $500K and living off the wife's paychecks. I tried to explain this principle to him and he did not understand it. Which shows he is just throwing shit on the wall.

You are so fucking stupid. As if I would post every way ive made money over the years.

You can find out real quick by accepting the bet but of course you won't.

As if every person with money follows the exact same methods.

 

[vitterd]

It isn't like he even says he is that good at poker. All he said was he luckboxed a few big tourney's, that really isn't very far fetched.

Other than being extremely lucky, it isn't even really all that impressive. He isn't really saying he made $ by being skillful or savvy. Just that he went on an incredible hot streak and now he is set.

Maybe he won like 1.2ish around 08-09 and invested at the nadir of the market circa early '09 and now has close to 2 (also maybe he had some $ before the poker $, etc)

Would that be extremely fortunate timing wise? Yeah but it does happen.

Also him quitting poker after the big scores is perfectly reasonable because again, he never said he was that good.

this is exactly what I've already said.

You dealing with s guy like acebb who is obsessed with me and has serious mental problems. Good luck with that.

 

[JDeuce]

Well, there has been plenty of baseball winning going on in the daily threads.

What if we all chipped in a few bucks to watch them spar at a boxing gym? Half goes towards setting up the webcast, the other half is the winner's prize.

Who's down?

 

[vitterd]

Well, there has been plenty of baseball winning going on in the daily threads.

What if we all chipped in a few bucks to watch them spar at a boxing gym? Half goes towards setting up the webcast, the other half is the winner's prize.

Who's down?

I don't need anything....beating the misery out of that coward is good enough for me.

That daily pick thread has been money for some....good stuff in there.

 

[vitterd]

Im not married?? Lmao....ok. Just because acebb has never seen live pussy, he thinks nobody has.

In a life full of hits and misses....home run for who I got to marry me. Educated, beautiful, kind, giving, hard working....could not ask for a better wife.

In the life of a miserable fuck like acebb....he couldn't possibly understand what I'm saying.

 

[Acebb]

I understand your doubts but my opinion is that he is not lying about being independently wealthy.

But why? Let me focus on two points here.

#1 Nothing, not 1 single thing, he has ever posted here would indicate he actually has or knows anything about money (look at his stupid straw man reply to me below). His idiotic boasting is always couched in "financial moves" and "you're clueless" and "LMAO" there are no actual real thoughts or explanations. He can't offer any because as I've already demonstrated he doesn't understand basic financial principles. If were to offer any actual details he knows I will be able to shred them with facts (and so will Willie) and therefore he won't offer any. This is typical of a dumb person who thinks they are clever. We see this from another poster from Alaska all the time.

I could offer very precise details of my investments and activities since say 2010 and it would not in any way reveal my identity. This clown is actually pretending that if he does he will somehow reveal something. He's an idiot and he knows nothing about money. Not 1 single thing.

#2 Perhaps more important than point #1 is the fact that he spends so much time here. You've raised this point to him a few times and he is absolutely unable to respond. Just think, if you were to wake up today and not have to work or worry about money, would the first thing you do is log onto this site and start screaming about how dumb russ is? Would you actually only take 6 minutes to find out the dumb Alaskan is unbanned and log in here at 11pm on a Monday and welcome him back? Would you be here Easter morning starting threads about a poster who no longer posts here if you had some great life?
Please.

The facts here are obvious and inarguable.

 

[vitterd]

But why? Let me focus on two points here.

#1 Nothing, not 1 single thing, he has ever posted here would indicate he actually has or knows anything about money (look at his stupid straw man reply to me below). His idiotic boasting is always couched in "financial moves" and "you're clueless" and "LMAO" there are no actual real thoughts or explanations. He can't offer any because as I've already demonstrated he doesn't understand basic financial principles. If were to offer any actual details he knows I will be able to shred them with facts (and so will Willie) and therefore he won't offer any. This is typical of a dumb person who thinks they are clever. We see this from another poster from Alaska all the time.

I could offer very precise details of my investments and activities since say 2010 and it would not in any way reveal my identity. This clown is actually pretending that if he does he will somehow reveal something. He's an idiot and he knows nothing about money. Not 1 single thing.

#2 Perhaps more important than point #1 is the fact that he spends so much time here. You've raised this point to him a few times and he is absolutely unable to respond. Just think, if you were to wake up today and not have to work or worry about money, would the first thing you do is log onto this site and start screaming about how dumb russ is? Would you actually only take 6 minutes to find out the dumb Alaskan is unbanned and log in here at 11pm on a Monday and welcome him back? Would you be here Easter morning starting threads about a poster who no longer posts here if you had some great life?
Please.

The facts here are obvious and inarguable.

you just keep lying. Why would I divulge anymore info than I already have. So you can put it in quotes everyday.

You have no investments and no money. If you did you would accept a bet with me on it. I can have everything to BAS today.....and you can't

now either scrape together the few pennies you have or just go away. These guys are trying to tell you that you're wrong but you keep coming up with these " he doesn't know anything about money" nonsense. You're the sameidiot that says season ticket holders wouldn't be worried about recouping money on their tickets. I mean how can you say something that fucking stupid? It's clear you don't know anybody with money.

"Facts are obvious and inarguable "

lmao.....then why are several people telling you your facts aren't facts at all.

You don't even have enough money to accept a bet.....everyone knows this and it's why you were voted mr worthless. You are here just as much as me and you have the 2 day posting record

 

[Acebb]

You have no investments and no money. If you did you would accept a bet with me on it. I can have everything to BAS today.....and you can't

I have many, many investments. I can describe them (and already have). You have "financial moves" because you're a lying idiot.


"then why are several people telling you your facts aren't facts at all"



Nobody has done any such thing, idiot.

 

[Acebb]

You don't even have enough money to accept a bet.....

You don't have $3,000. This is well documented, coward.

You are on record as running like the pathetic little c-unt that you are when 3-1 was offered in your favor. As I've said, you don't read your own fucking posts.

several people telling you your facts aren't facts at all

@)

I bet they are stupid shit. You probably could quote them too!

 

[Acebb]

That is a good point. So his investing would've had to come from more active investments such as businesses or real estate rather than just 1 click passive market investing. Also, if he were to draw on the $, he wouldn't be getting all the benefits of compounding during this period of superior returns.

Maybe he let it ride on a 3 team parlay? I dunno. Beats me.

Another example of "several people" telling me my facts aren't facts.

This masters degree dumb fuck can't even read.

"Financial moves"

LMFAO

 

[Acebb]

These guys are trying to tell you that you're wrong

1 poster agrees with the points I raised and another is of the opinion he agrees with you but understands why I don't believe you.

Which isn't what you said you laughable dumb fuck liar.