A VERY important note for Super Bowl betting...

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Hello patrick7033...

Do you realize that Arizona won their division based on a very shoddy mark of 9-7 straight up during the regular season and that 6 of their 9 wins came against divisional rivals that all had losing records (Seattle, St Louis and San Francisco)?

Do you realize that this is the first time since 1979 that a team that only won 9 regular season meetings is in the Super Bowl?

As a side note and some trivia for you, that 1979 team was the L.A. Rams who oh by the way were trounced 31-19 by Pittsburgh...

take care and be well my friend

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Hello patrick7033...

Do you realize that Arizona won their division based on a very shoddy mark of 9-7 straight up during the regular season and that 6 of their 9 wins came against divisional rivals that all had losing records (Seattle, St Louis and San Francisco)?

Do you realize that this is the first time since 1979 that a team that only won 9 regular season meetings is in the Super Bowl?

As a side note and some trivia for you, that 1979 team was the L.A. Rams who oh by the way were trounced 31-19 by Pittsburgh...

take care and be well my friend

Dirtydog

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I normally agree with what you say, and I'm not disagreeing that Pitt will win, but I find the 9-7 etc stats fairly useless. The Cards had the division wrapped up even before they clinched, and there was obviously some gamesmanship going on with their coaching staff. James gets benched in a way I've never seen before, just gets flat out no carries for a good period of time. Then all of a sudden he gets back into the flow with fresh legs come playoff time. I don't know, just seems like they didn't want to show their hand the entire 2nd half of the season.

This game will be in good weather, and as much as I think Pitt will have no problem scoring, I would fear a backdoor score if I had to cover 7.
I think the Over is the play here.
 

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DD, As far as posters go at the rx, you are easily in the top 3 with all the insight and knowledge you add. Ty sir
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Hello Shhhnake...

Thank you my friend for the kind words, that was very kind of you to say and I really appreciate it.

Take care and be well

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Over a 19 game schedule, the stats DO lie, especially in the meaningless games after Arizona clinched their division.... just my op
 

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I normally agree with what you say, and I'm not disagreeing that Pitt will win, but I find the 9-7 etc stats fairly useless. The Cards had the division wrapped up even before they clinched, and there was obviously some gamesmanship going on with their coaching staff.
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Hello I_Need_Money...

I personally haven't made my mind up one way or the other with regard to how (side or total) I am going to wager in this years upcoming Super Bowl, hopefully you weren't reading something into my responses that was unintentional on my part...

...in replying to patrick7033 I was merely trying to set the record straight with regard to his thought process that Arizona was alot like Indianapolis in that they both had strong passing attacks and since Indianapolis defeated Pittsburgh then Arizona also should be able to defeat Pittsburgh.

In my humble opinion that leap (Pittsburgh vs Indy results) was like comparing apples to oranges as the situation is totally different than the situation that will take place in Tampa Bay between Pittsburgh and Arizona, that's the point I was trying to make.

In other words, I was playing the role of the "devil's advocate" by trying to present a point-counter-point with an overall goal of achieving a fair and balanced view.

I do have to disagree with you however on the point that Arizona's final season record of 9-7 is a fairly useless stat as it relates in historical terms to past Super Bowls...

...in my humble opinion there is a reason that turtle's don't fly just as there is a reason that this is the first time since 1979 that a 9 win team has made it to the Super Bowl.

I am in no way saying that Arizona doesn't have a chance at winning this years Super Bowl in straight up fashion, however, what I am saying is that in HISTORICAL terms, teams that have made it to the Super Bowl over the past 30 years have had better seasonal records than the one that Arizona produced this season and there is a reason for it...

...as a side note that 1979 L.A. Ram team that made it to the Super Bowl had the added benefit of getting to play the Super Bowl in Pasedena Ca, meaning that their fans had less travel time and so did the team, however, the odds maker installed that Rams team as 10.5 point doggies.

On the grand stage of Super Bowl Sunday experience means alot and in that regard in HISTORICAL terms past results have shown us that when a team with no Super Bowl experience takes the field against a team that was in a prior Super Bowl within five years, the inexperienced team FAILED to cover the posted point spread 11 of 16 times ATS...

...does that trend mean anything? I don't know if it will apply to this years Super Bowl or not, but the point of the matter is that some credence must be given to the trend because it gives us some insight into how teams in the same situation in the past have performed.

Take care and be well my friend

Dirtydog

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I was just wondering since the salary cap era how have dogs done vs favorites in the super bowl? Seems lately from what I can remember games have been tight, the only 2 lop sided scores were the ravens and pitt?
 

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I was just wondering since the salary cap era how have dogs done vs favorites in the super bowl? Seems lately from what I can remember games have been tight, the only 2 lop sided scores were the ravens and pitt?

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Hello goode05...

To answer your question my friend, the NFL's Free agency era began with the 1993 season and in the 14 Super Bowls since that time the Favorite has posted a mark of 9-5 straight up and 4-8-2 ATS.

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Hello goode05...

To answer your question my friend, the NFL's Free agency era began with the 1993 season and in the 14 Super Bowls since that time the Favorite has posted a mark of 9-5 straight up and 4-8-2 ATS.

Take care and be well

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wow had no idea it was that dog heavy.
 

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so in two of the games with throwing teams in good conditions here's what you're telling me:

Peyton manning could still get a 60 yard touchdown on pitt even when he threw it bad. Roethlisberger throws unnecessary ints.

And a really bad team hung 202 passing on them and their marquee receiver (could be compared to fitzgerald) went buck-wild.

i don't know who to take in this game.what i will say is with the rules in todays nfl,where if you say wink at a receiver you get

a penalty,and with teams throwing usually much more than they

run,i dont think giving up 200 - 250 yards is all that bad.
 

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the last thirteen years the higher seeded team is 1-10-2 ATS! wow thats a crazy stat
 

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Hello I_Need_Money...

I personally haven't made my mind up one way or the other with regard to how (side or total) I am going to wager in this years upcoming Super Bowl, hopefully you weren't reading something into my responses that was unintentional on my part...

...in replying to patrick7033 I was merely trying to set the record straight with regard to his thought process that Arizona was alot like Indianapolis in that they both had strong passing attacks and since Indianapolis defeated Pittsburgh then Arizona also should be able to defeat Pittsburgh.

In my humble opinion that leap (Pittsburgh vs Indy results) was like comparing apples to oranges as the situation is totally different than the situation that will take place in Tampa Bay between Pittsburgh and Arizona, that's the point I was trying to make.

In other words, I was playing the role of the "devil's advocate" by trying to present a point-counter-point with an overall goal of achieving a fair and balanced view.

I do have to disagree with you however on the point that Arizona's final season record of 9-7 is a fairly useless stat as it relates in historical terms to past Super Bowls...

...in my humble opinion there is a reason that turtle's don't fly just as there is a reason that this is the first time since 1979 that a 9 win team has made it to the Super Bowl.

I am in no way saying that Arizona doesn't have a chance at winning this years Super Bowl in straight up fashion, however, what I am saying is that in HISTORICAL terms, teams that have made it to the Super Bowl over the past 30 years have had better seasonal records than the one that Arizona produced this season and there is a reason for it...

...as a side note that 1979 L.A. Ram team that made it to the Super Bowl had the added benefit of getting to play the Super Bowl in Pasedena Ca, meaning that their fans had less travel time and so did the team, however, the odds maker installed that Rams team as 10.5 point doggies.

On the grand stage of Super Bowl Sunday experience means alot and in that regard in HISTORICAL terms past results have shown us that when a team with no Super Bowl experience takes the field against a team that was in a prior Super Bowl within five years, the inexperienced team FAILED to cover the posted point spread 11 of 16 times ATS...

...does that trend mean anything? I don't know if it will apply to this years Super Bowl or not, but the point of the matter is that some credence must be given to the trend because it gives us some insight into how teams in the same situation in the past have performed.

Take care and be well my friend

Dirtydog

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That whole logic I agree with for the most part but remember who the starting qb for Arizona is ??? Mr. Kurt Warner who threw for over 400 yards against the Titans in a previous Super Bowl. He's seen every kind of blitz thrown at him along with Wisenhunt knowing that team inside-out. I think in my humble opinion Arizona will show up and pull the possible outright:103631605
 

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