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You see everything with hated in your heart.

I am the OP, and the original post was sincerely written. There is not one mocking or disrespectful word in it.

I simply wanted to memorialize the issues of the day and re-visit them in four years.

What do you expect from him?

Any guy that assaults his wife and defrauds people.......is not someone of good character. Pray for him to start being truthful and living life the right way.

All repub govt is a scary thought....trump might actually be the savior......he really isn't a republican.....so he might stop those idiots congressional repubs.
 

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However you want to lie to yourself is just fine. Trump isnt a republican lmao. This is killing you and your anger is really not a good look. " Scold the trolls Scott". Your meltdown last week was just the beginning for you. Move on fraud.

Hopefully life gets better for you. Clearly you are losing it. Time for your therapy. You might be a bigger loser than Lenbo.....which is off the chart type loser.
 

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What do you expect from him?

Any guy that assaults his wife and defrauds people.......is not someone of good character. Pray for him to start being truthful and living life the right way.

All repub govt is a scary thought....trump might actually be the savior......he really isn't a republican.....so he might stop those idiots congressional repubs.

However you want to lie to yourself is just fine. Trump isnt a republican lmao. This is killing you and your anger is really not a good look. " Scold the trolls Scott". Your meltdown last week was just the beginning for you. Move on fraud.
 

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People gonna turn on the Conald BIGLY!!

Liz Warren will be ahead in the polls

He aint bringing shit back.

He might butcher Obamacare but will not be replacing it with anything meaningful. And yes premiums will keep rising

No wall

Unemployment a lot higher than today. Lets say by 2 %

It's already a lot higher than what's being stated by this administration. The gullible lefties fall for it however.
 

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if the Labor Participation Rate remains constant, unemployment is 3% higher today

they simply don't understand the lies, they don't understand numbers, the jobs numbers are the worst in recorded history

at the end of the day, we always have periods of growth followed by recessions followed by growth followed by recession

Obama changed all that, his wet noodles policies have taken away growth, we're stuck in 10 years of economic malaise because of their failures, they own it, they own this anemic economy which leads to the anger and discord of the have-nots which is what we're seeing on the streets today
 

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The economy never recovered, how could it when they were putting 85 billion into it every month? Why shouldn't the market have increased when it was being artificially inflated?
 

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Not true- according to what data?

Allow me to provide data. 2014 was the best year for employment growth in 15 years, the official figures show that the U.S. had 6,371,000 more people employed in December 2014 than it did when Obama took office in 2009. So during Obama’s first six years in office, the U.S. has added nearly five times more jobs than it did during the entire eight years under President George W. Bush. (Bush’s total was just under 1.3 million.) Bush’s record suffered from a loss of nearly 4.4 million jobs in the last 12 months of his presidency, while Obama continues to add jobs.

Further, from February 1, 2009 (President Obama's inauguration was mid-month January) to May 2016, U.S. employment increased by 10.5 million. From February 1, 2010 (the post-recession trough or employment low-point) to May 2016, U.S. employment increased by 14.1 million.
 

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The economy never recovered

Actual data- Without complete data for 2016, the average growth rate during Obama's two terms was 2 percent. That was on par with George H.W. Bush's term and faster than George W. Bush's average.
 

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1. Passed Health Care Reform: Granted it isn't perfect but after five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance he at least tried and secured coverage for 32 million uninsured Americans which I believe every American should have access to. - While many more than 32 million lost the plans they were on, record % of increase and deductibles on top of that, fines, and making it mandatory

2. Passed the $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to recover from arguably one of the worst economic disasters created by Bush and the republicans. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs. - Less people are working, less full time jobs, and billions were lost and billions more were given for "paybacks"

3. Cut unemployment in half- from 10% to about 5% between 2010 and 2016. the unemployment rate dropped from about 10 percent to about 5 percent. The current unemployment rate is below the historical median since 1948 of 5.5 percent. - Labor Participation rate? Black Unemployment Rate?

4. Passed Wall Street Reform and Recapitalized Banks - While giving lobbyists more power

5. Killed Bin Laden - Sat in a room and said OK

6. Got out of Iraq - No he didnt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqmpfW9tho4 He even said so

7. Saved the auto industry- according to statistics compiled by Autodata, U.S. car sales have increased steadily every year since 2009, and in 2015 set an all-time record of 17.47 million vehicles sold. - Cash for clunkers, billions lost

8. Kicked banks out of Federal Student Loan Program and expanded Pell Grant spending.

9. Tripled the stock market. - How so?

10. Boosted fuel efficiency standards and invested in clean energy technology. - Which has lost billions and bankrupted many companies at the taxpayer expense
 

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labor participation rate has dropped more than 3% since Obama became president. The LPR drops during periods of weak economic growth, and rises during people of strong economic growth. People QUIT looking for work because good paying jobs can't be found, and that's how Obama reduced the unemployment rate, it's a lie. instead of working people look to government programs, and that has surged under Obama, the only thing that increased besides the deficit.

If the LPR remained constant, Obama owns an UE rate greater than 8% for his entire term, a complete failure in any other generation.

Here's how Obama reduced UE.

He starts with 10 people looking for work and only 6 have jobs, the UE rate is 40%

2 people quit looking for work, now 8 people are in the labor force and 6 have jobs, he just reduced the unemployment rate to only 25%

that's what happened, that's how he reduced the UE rate

it's a house of cards, a lie, a mirage

the economy has been growing at 2% or less for 8 fucking years, you can't suck that bad and grow. He's the 1st president in recorded history to not have at least ONE year with 3% growth.

it's not rocket science either, increased taxes and increased regulations slow the economy down, he's an economic anchor holding us down, the proof is in the pudding
 

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If you are going to tell a story, then tell the entire story Wllie. Th LPR rate has been in decline, however it's far from the "worst ever" as you claim and as you can clearly see by the chart below

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Further, according to the Bureau, it has nothing to do with Obama and actually began after 2000. Bureau of Labor Statistics, November 2006: Every year after 2000, the rate declined gradually, from 66.8 percent in 2001 to 66.0 percent in 2004 and 2005. According to the BLS projections, the overall participation rate will continue its gradual decrease each decade and reach 60.4 percent in 2050.

Why?
1) The aging of baby boomers. A lower percentage of older Americans choose to work than those who are middle-aged. And so as baby boomers approach retirement age, it lowers the labor force participation rate.

2) A decline in working women. The labor force participation rate for men has been declining since the 1950s. But for a couple decades, a rapid rise in working women more than offset that dip. Women’s labor force participation exploded from nearly 34 percent in 1950 to its peak of 60 percent in 1999. But since then, women’s participation rate has been “displaying a pattern of slow decline.”

3) More young people are going to college. As BLS noted, “Because students are less likely to participate in the labor force, increases in school attendance at the secondary and college levels and, especially, increases in school attendance during the summer, significantly reduce the labor force participation rate of youths.”


Thus, this trend will continue during Trump's four years as well.
 

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promises made, promises kept and more,

dude has done incredible work in only 4 years,,imagine where we would be if he got an iota of support from the dems or the MSM who have been using every lie and dirty trick in the book to hold him back.

flat out incredible President.
 

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What did Trump accomplish?

IMMIGRATION

1. Did he build the wall?

Building it, tried doing more, opposed vehemently by the democrats. Promised kept, he's NOT king

2. Did he make Mexico pay for it?

Mexico (and other Central American countries) are paying to secure their southern borders, stopping the endless parade of caravans. Promise kept

3. Did he round up the 10 million illegals and deport them from day 1?

This is a lie, he doesn't want to deport 10 million illegals

HEALTH CARE

1. Did he repeal Obamacare?

He had it repealed, the Mavarick John McCain broke his campaign promise to his constituents and saved it. It was more important to him to be liked by Schumer & Pelosi and CNN and the NYT than it was to be honest to his people

2. Did he replace Obamacare with something better?

Not plausible in today's environment, he still tried

3. Did the cost of health insurance premiums go down?

Yes, with the repeal of the mandate and competition reentering the marketplace. I have personal first hand experience with this

JOBS

1. Did he repeal NAFTA?
2. Did he re-negotiate NAFTA and other trade deals?

Hell yes


3. Did he bring back jobs to the rust belt states that got him elected, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania?

Hell yes

Those were the issues that got him elected. Let's re-visit these issues in four years.


If it wasn't for a Trumped up pandemic, this would be a landslide
 

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