jj: I stand by my statements, but as I said before, when an area like this gets crossed into, there is no 'reason' in the discussion when one person considers most black players in the NBA to be animals (whites too, but just how many are there??), and any race indeed in most sports to be 'animals', the theme being they are unable to control themselves, they aren't human by default. You've crossed from considering what percentage of athletes commit crimes as opposed to the rest of us into that area of thought where reason has lost hold and emotion prevailed - in other words, 'Outhouse territory'.