I have a feeling that those figures are not very accurate considering both teams have pretty much been playing kill the clock the entire second half of their games. It would be interesting to see how much of Texas' rushing is related to Colt McCoy vs actual running backs, and also how much of OU's defense is due to Robert Griffin (baylor qb) running for 100 yards last week.
I have a feeling that those figures are not very accurate considering both teams have pretty much been playing kill the clock the entire second half of their games. It would be interesting to see how much of Texas' rushing is related to Colt McCoy vs actual running backs, and also how much of OU's defense is due to Robert Griffin (baylor qb) running for 100 yards last week.
The public will be on Oklahoma big. And the books are loving it. The line should be less than -3, and I think the wrong team is favored. Oklahoma will have a hard time running the ball and the front 4 has shown great ability to pressure the qb while the defensive backs are worlds better than last year. Colt McCoy is the better quarterback, and he's also arguably the best running back on the field as well, he's got 'it' the intangibles that don't come around too often, leadership, intuition. Colt has played catch with Cosby and Shipley for so long that their timing is almost inhuman. I'm not sure if Texas trusts Chiles enough for the Jump formations but I don't see how some of them aren't used in a game with title implications (he's arguably the 2nd best RB on the field). Oklahoma's defensive front line is banged up, Granger is/will be one of the best defensive players nationally and he's out. I feel that Stoops has outcoached Mack in the past, but that disparity has lessened if anything, Muschamp has a lot of input defensively, future Texas HC MAJOR APPLEWHITE HAS A LOT OF INPUT!!
Not that I am going to convince anyone, most people here don't understand numbers. But this is for the people that do and to give them the confidence that 'yes you are seeing things clearly.' I doubt the line will move much off 7 even though the public money will undoubtedly come in on OU. The line is far enough off that the books will leave it be and/or the bigger sharper money comes in on Texas...most likely the latter and I'm fairly sure that this line moves to 6.5 or 6 at some point. It's Tuesday, so yeah it's early to be saying that, but I've seen thousands of similar scenarios. If Bob, or a ton of touts preach OU then that can affect things but I don't see it moving past 7.5 so that the masses can buy to -7 (they will put more on it if they can do that).
Not that I am going to convince anyone, most people here don't understand numbers. But this is for the people that do and to give them the confidence that 'yes you are seeing things clearly.' I doubt the line will move much off 7 even though the public money will undoubtedly come in on OU. The line is far enough off that the books will leave it be and/or the bigger sharper money comes in on Texas...most likely the latter and I'm fairly sure that this line moves to 6.5 or 6 at some point. It's Tuesday, so yeah it's early to be saying that, but I've seen thousands of similar scenarios. If Bob, or a ton of touts preach OU then that can affect things but I don't see it moving past 7.5 so that the masses can buy to -7 (they will put more on it if they can do that).
I think Colt McCoy being the better QB is debatable. Colt is obviously the more mobile QB, but I think Bradford is a much better passer. Also the fact that Bradford tends to stay in the pocket (and protected) and not scramble gives his receivers time to get open and make big plays. I think overall OU just has more weapons that Texas. It will be interesting to see what happens if OU gets an early lead and forces Texas to pass more. Colt threw 18 picks last year, Bradford has never thrown more than 8.
last year, in this game, Colt threw for 80 more yards than Bradford. Last year Texas was a mess, the O-line wasn't giving him time, he tried to do too much. Don't underestimate the hiring of Applewhite (Greg Davis is horrible as a playcaller) and Muschamp, and that extra year for the line and for Colt with his receivers... Do you think that OU will be able to run the ball? Whoever wins the turnover battle wins this game, line should be 3 or less.
No, I already posted in another thread maybe that I am worried about OU being able to run the ball. I actually think that neither team will be able to run the ball with much success, which is why I think OU will win. I think OU has a better passing game. I do not see this game coming down to a fieldgoal, though. I see this game going one of two ways. Either OU stops the run and wins the passing game for a 1 or 2 touchdown win, or Texas is in fact able to run in huge chunks and wins by 1 or 2 touchdowns, with some help from questionable special teams play by OU. If OU continues their mediocre (at best) special teams and punt return coverage, Texas could easily win the field position battle and end up with a couple of short field possessions that turn into points.
I think the truth of the matter is both of these teams are vastly more complete and improved all around over last year and neither of them have been tested on either side of the ball this year. Arguments could be made in support of and against both teams winning and the fact is this game could easily go either way. I think you are right about turnovers playing a huge role and I will add special teams to that.
I am still a little worried about the Texas pass coverage, but I think the Horns will get to Bradford enough to overcome that. Texas was overmatched last year and still came very close to winning the game. This year, I think Colt makes the plays down the stretch, with his legs etc., and it's a very tight game. Keep in mind, it's tough to protect a lead with no running game. If you have to keep throwing the ball, there are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad. And the clock stops. Stoops is aware of this, I'm sure he has some special things in store 
Should be a good game. I think I'm through with the devil's advocate bit, let the OU parade commence...But I am taking Texas for quite a bit. Will, you going to the game?
Should be a good game. I think I'm through with the devil's advocate bit, let the OU parade commence...But I am taking Texas for quite a bit. Will, you going to the game?
Watched the first half of that game as well, Texas had one legit touchdown and Colorado had 3 fg chances, very easily could've been 9-7 buffs going into halftime. That's neither here nor their, but something to think about. All objective signs point to OU for a comfortable cover. :aktion033
I know, "I said it was neither here nor their" but just something to consider. Baylor was a look ahead game for OU too and we both know what they did. Tough loss last night Jordan, it is really unbelievable how we can't beat this team. You and I both know the Angels were the better team and that we lost to a bunch of idiots. So frustrating
Ask everygamblersdream what happened the last time Texas played his Trojans...hence the reason he is on OU's nuts...I bet Texas would beat Oregon State :nohead:
Colt McCoy is legit...gained 17 lbs. over the offseason. I'm not betting on the game because I don't bet on teams I like...but I sure can't wait for the underrated Horn's to take some OU fans
:money8:
Colt McCoy is legit...gained 17 lbs. over the offseason. I'm not betting on the game because I don't bet on teams I like...but I sure can't wait for the underrated Horn's to take some OU fans
:money8:
I am still a little worried about the Texas pass coverage, but I think the Horns will get to Bradford enough to overcome that. Texas was overmatched last year and still came very close to winning the game. This year, I think Colt makes the plays down the stretch, with his legs etc., and it's a very tight game. Keep in mind, it's tough to protect a lead with no running game. If you have to keep throwing the ball, there are 3 things that can happen and 2 of them are bad. And the clock stops. Stoops is aware of this, I'm sure he has some special things in store
Should be a good game. I think I'm through with the devil's advocate bit, let the OU parade commence...But I am taking Texas for quite a bit. Will, you going to the game?
I usually go to the game every year, but I'm going to pass this year and hold out for the trip to Miami.
Yes, I know its a long ways off, but I have already decided that whether or not OU goes, I'm going. Miami is afterall not a bad place to spend a week in the middle of winter....The only thing that may keep me from going is if I'm going to be around a bunch of Texas fans there. LOL
had the same conversation in that game...
in both Texas +7, should be favored, better defense...etc.
I think this game will be somewhat similar to UT/USC back then, just not as many points scored.
BigWill, it won't be hard to get rid of those tickets...
Hopefully you will try to sell them before you leave the Cotton Bowl
