'09 Dawoofdaddy college football action & discussion thread

[Dawoofdaddy]

Russ, you are posting about Army new offense. My first ? for you is who is going to be doing the blocking for this Army offense?

Im actually pretty confident posting that EMU is MUCH stronger at QB RB & OL, and a stronger team in terms of overall talent.

Im not sure what you are thinking to disagree, but you have your opinion and I have mine based on the following:

Emu has a multi-year starter at QB, Andy Schmitt, who has a career 31-20 td/int ratio and 63% completion rate.

Emu has a pair of upperclassman RB that have posted solid #.

Army has two returning qbs that threw for a total of 4td last season. They also lost their leading rusher from last season. Nice find with the sprinter, but they still arent as deep as emu at RB.

I dont care who the coach is or the offense they are using. Until army has depth and overall talent to run a sophisticated offense, they are going to struggle. If the best jockey in the world hops on a donkey and runs the kentucky derby, ge still isnt going to win the race.

You posted about emu lacking size on the DL, but Army OL avg less than 265 lb and Army DL avg less than 250 lb. Regarding this game, Emu OL avg 287 and Emu DL is around 265 avg with DT at 273 and 290, I wouldnt call them a small front. Nevertheless, Army OL is very undersized. Unless its misprinted, Im seeing Army OT are 231 and 257, so I dont think EMU DL size matters much.

Id be more concerned about armys triple option with increased passing if it was in the middle of the season. For this game, emu has plenty of time to prepare. Another wildcard for army is 6-10, 283 lb TE, but if hes busy blocking he wont be downfield catching many passes.

 

[russ1945]

Russ, you are posting about Army new offense. My first ? for you is who is going to be doing the blocking for this Army offense?

Im actually pretty confident posting that EMU is MUCH stronger at QB RB & OL, and a stronger team in terms of overall talent.

Im not sure what you are thinking to disagree, but you have your opinion and I have mine based on the following:

Emu has a multi-year starter at QB, Andy Schmitt, who has a career 31-20 td/int ratio and 63% completion rate.

Emu has a pair of upperclassman RB that have posted solid #.

Army has two returning qbs that threw for a total of 4td last season. They also lost their leading rusher from last season. Nice find with the sprinter, but they still arent as deep as emu at RB.

I dont care who the coach is or the offense they are using. Until army has depth and overall talent to run a sophisticated offense, they are going to struggle. If the best jockey in the world hops on a donkey and runs the kentucky derby, ge still isnt going to win the race.

You posted about emu lacking size on the DL, but Army OL avg less than 265 lb and Army DL avg less than 250 lb. Regarding this game, Emu OL avg 287 and Emu DL is around 265 avg with DT at 273 and 290, I wouldnt call them a small front. Nevertheless, Army OL is very undersized. Unless its misprinted, Im seeing Army OT are 231 and 257, so I dont think EMU DL size matters much.

Id be more concerned about armys triple option with increased passing if it was in the middle of the season. For this game, emu has plenty of time to prepare. Another wildcard for army is 6-10, 283 lb TE, but if hes busy blocking he wont be downfield catching many passes.

I did not think I could change your mind but I think you are going to find Army a handful and they could very easily win this one. BOL.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Russ, one thing that would easily get me to put some coin on Army is the line going to +7.5 or higher.

Thanks for the info.

 

[leisure]

Hay Woof,
Any inside info on Ball State? I think I am gonna load the boat.. Ball St -17.5 vs the Mean Green

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Nothing Leisure, but any # over 2td is too many considering the graduation losses at Ball State and NT looks to be improved. Ball St is a slightly less than average team in MAC this season.

 

[leisure]

Nothing Leisure, but any # over 2td is too many considering the graduation losses at Ball State and NT looks to be improved. Ball St is a slightly less than average team in MAC this season.

The Green Wave is dogchit.... beginning of the season is the BEST time to load up on selected fav's. Ball St is doing some rebuilding yes but they still have their superman RB... North Texas also will be starting a Freshmen at QB ... the coaches son ... LOL

I am gonna load up on Ball St even though they foked me against Buffalo last year

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Green Wave is Tulane, North Texas is Mean Green.

The same green those of us betting NT + will be collecting at the window after they cover the doggie # at Ball State.

Regarding season win totals, byu under 9 wins already thin OL has added both projected starters on left side of OL to injured list. Hall is a righty so he will probably get knocked around early and often vs. Okla & FSU.

d1g1t

 

[leisure]

Green Wave is Tulane, North Texas is Mean Green.

The same green those of us betting NT + will be collecting at the window after they cover the doggie # at Ball State.

Regarding season win totals, byu under 9 wins already thin OL has added both projected starters on left side of OL to injured list. Hall is a righty so he will probably get knocked around early and often vs. Okla & FSU.

d1g1t

Oh ya.. my bad..

 

[Railbird]

Are you sure your not overrating this MAC confrence a little bit? We saw what happend in the bowl season.

 

[fballplaya]

Hey Woof...just some feedback on your write-ups...first off, good stuff....I love the EMU pick...I think this is a low-scoring game...and EMU just may come out on top...

I am also beginning to lean ever so slightly towards Toledo keeping this one in West Lafayette close as well...

The one I completely disagree with you on is Penn St/Akron...Penn St in a laugher...

My advice on Tex/ULM....is Texas or no play at all...I can see Texas winning this game 63-3 or something...

BOL though!

 

[Budworth22]

Good luck to you Woof

May you have another fine year. :toast:

Miami's defensive end is suspended/ injured, I am playing over 48.

 

[leisure]

Just loaded up on Utah -20.5

GLTA :cripwalk:

 

[TOOTIGHT]

May you have another fine year. :toast:

Miami's defensive end is suspended/ injured, I am playing over 48.

not trying to talk you out of anything but here's my opinion:

I know they scored a lot the last 2 years but that was in the middle of the season after these offenses got the kinks out. This game is normally a baseball score when these teams meet in week one. Of the week one matchups going back 7 years the highest total for these teams was 36 pts. out of 4 games (13-10,10-7,16-10, and 22-14).

Miami's D will be tough despite loosing a good D-lineman. On the other side of things, they have a young QB with little experience playing a Defense that is solid year after year. They also lost their starting tailback to boot.

I will probably be on the 1st half under maybe under for the game.

 

[Railbird]

Russ, you are posting about Army new offense. My first ? for you is who is going to be doing the blocking for this Army offense?

Im actually pretty confident posting that EMU is MUCH stronger at QB RB & OL, and a stronger team in terms of overall talent.

Im not sure what you are thinking to disagree, but you have your opinion and I have mine based on the following:

Emu has a multi-year starter at QB, Andy Schmitt, who has a career 31-20 td/int ratio and 63% completion rate.

Emu has a pair of upperclassman RB that have posted solid #.

Army has two returning qbs that threw for a total of 4td last season. They also lost their leading rusher from last season. Nice find with the sprinter, but they still arent as deep as emu at RB.

I dont care who the coach is or the offense they are using. Until army has depth and overall talent to run a sophisticated offense, they are going to struggle. If the best jockey in the world hops on a donkey and runs the kentucky derby, ge still isnt going to win the race.

You posted about emu lacking size on the DL, but Army OL avg less than 265 lb and Army DL avg less than 250 lb. Regarding this game, Emu OL avg 287 and Emu DL is around 265 avg with DT at 273 and 290, I wouldnt call them a small front. Nevertheless, Army OL is very undersized. Unless its misprinted, Im seeing Army OT are 231 and 257, so I dont think EMU DL size matters much.

Id be more concerned about armys triple option with increased passing if it was in the middle of the season. For this game, emu has plenty of time to prepare. Another wildcard for army is 6-10, 283 lb TE, but if hes busy blocking he wont be downfield catching many passes.

Armys new coach had twice the talent at Cal Poly that he does at Army. Cal Poly wasnt 12-1 and have Wiscy on the ropes away because of who there coach was. They had a big time qb and a 3rd rnd nlf wr.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Rail, what are you thinking about the sdst/ucla game? Its one play Ive made that the line has moved against my initial bet and I may add to the play depending what you and other veterans are thinking about the matchup.

Thanks bud and likewise.

You and tootight can have all you want of the miami/fsu game its one of the few games I havent looked at much.

Leisure, I think you are on the wrong side of the utah/usu game, but maybe utah will win by 21 so we both win.

A hat-tip to wilheim and rx mods for banning QH...dude was a turd at the forum the entire time he posted here. He wasnt completely useless regarding knowledge, but the "we" and betting group in las vegas stuff was lame.

 

[barman]

What is and where the heck did the name Pokes come from anyway?

Ohio city-slicker.....

cow⋅poke

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[leisure]

Rail, what are you thinking about the sdst/ucla game? Its one play Ive made that the line has moved against my initial bet and I may add to the play depending what you and other veterans are thinking about the matchup.

Thanks bud and likewise.

You and tootight can have all you want of the miami/fsu game its one of the few games I havent looked at much.

Leisure, I think you are on the wrong side of the utah/usu game, but maybe utah will win by 21 so we both win.

A hat-tip to wilheim and rx mods for banning QH...dude was a turd at the forum the entire time he posted here. He wasnt completely useless regarding knowledge, but the "we" and betting group in las vegas stuff was lame.

woof... I love the Utes bet I really do and have already locked in -20.5

I am rethinking the Ball State bet... I will never bet on NT but I just need to do some more investigating concerning Ball State.

Also stop by LLV in the SSS... woof posts and they will come..

As far as SDSU that is one DOG I may be playing. Here is a good read on SDSU and their new coaching staff..

Arrival of new coach Hoke brings hope to San Diego State
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/mwest/2009-08-26-preview_N.htm
By Eddie Timanus, USA TODAY
New San Diego State coach Brady Hoke wants to talk about the future, not the past.
That's understandable. The program he is taking over hasn't had much good to talk about recently.
San Diego State figured to be one of the shining stars of the Mountain West Conference when the league formed in 1999. A balmy climate, easy access to the fertile recruiting grounds of Southern California and a solid tradition of grooming NFL-ready talent such as Marshall Faulk, Az-Zahir Hakim and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila rank among the program's many selling points.
Instead, the Aztecs have had no more than six wins in a season since the formation of the MWC while Utah, Brigham Young and Texas Christian have carried the banner. Those three enjoy preseason Top 25 rankings. SDSU, meanwhile, is starting over again after a 2-10 season that brought an end to the three-year tenure of Chuck Long with a 9-27 record.
SDSU last played in a bowl in 1998, and its most recent championship was in 1986 as a member of the Western Athletic Conference.
But despite the decade-plus of doldrums, those strong selling points still apply. They have enabled the school to attract a coaching staff that appears well-equipped to reverse the Aztecs' fortunes. It begins with Hoke, hired from Ball State after he led his alma mater to a 12-0 regular season and the Mid-American Conference title game.
"When I drove my car in to work today, I didn't drive looking in the rear-view mirror," Hoke says. "All our focus is on going forward and building the program."
Hoke's offensive coordinator is Al Borges, whose four years in the same capacity at Auburn included an undefeated 2004 season. He sounds a similar theme when asked what the Aztecs need to be successful.
"I don't know what didn't work since we weren't here," he says. "I do know we're trying to put our stamp on the program and going about it our own way. We want a program that exudes toughness and discipline."
Taking over the defense is Hoke's longtime friend Rocky Long, who had 65 wins in 11 seasons at New Mexico with that kind of toughness on defense.
"I don't think there's any doubt we were really fortunate to bring in this staff," Hoke says. "More than anything else we have guys who really care about kids."
Hoke will be his own defensive line coach. "My first year at Ball State I was just the head coach. I was walking around looking for something to do. It drove me crazy. That doesn't fit my profile," he says. "I'm one of those guys that likes to get in there."
In theory, then, he'll report to Long in meetings. "I think him being the head coach trumps that," Long says. "But I thought this opportunity was exciting. I got some calls when I left New Mexico, but I thought working with Brady was the best fit."
Borges says his offensive philosophy will be consistent. "Football is pretty much the same," he says. "You have to block and tackle, and you have to throw and catch. You need good balance in your offense, and you make compensations based on the personnel."
Initially, the balance might tilt toward the passing game, where quarterback Ryan Lindley and top receiver Vincent Brown had some success last season.
While the Aztecs might not challenge the MWC favorites yet, Hoke likes what he sees. "I really enjoy our kids and the effort they've been giving us in camp," he says. "We have a great opportunity."

 

[JakeT.]

Good luck this year man.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Barman, thanks for the clarification and you are correct only farmers and factory workers in ohio.

Leisure, getting rid of chuck long was a wise move and especially considering the staff they brought in to replace him.

Jake, thanks for stopping by and look forward to seeing you around this season.

adding a win total to the already long list and adding to an earlier play:

4* Iowa UNDER 8 wins -105 @ bookmaker

I wouldnt be surprised if they lost to either ISU or Az during OOC. RB Hampton injury mystery still whirling around. Low juice on this bet and I dont think they can win 9 with or without him. Lose at psu, at wisc, at osu, and coin flips at msu, mich and minn. If they do happen to dump one of those ooc games, under players will be going to the window before halloween.

1* Boise UNDER 10 wins +250 betphoenix
1* Boise UNDER 11 wins -135 bookmaker

The boise add bumps the total play to 5* as I have 3* on under 10.5 wins. Their DL has taken some hits during the summer via injuries and suspensions and they are a VERY young team this year.

Most of the injury and suspension information has been in my favor so far...we'll see how long that lasts during the actual season. LOL

 

[KOOPSTAKNICCA]

Ready to get locked and loaded!!! Gl this year Woofy. Where is the first round unload the bankroll play? U are good for a couple of these in the first weeks.